Posted on 07/17/2017 8:08:32 AM PDT by ebb tide
Look again; read slowly this time:
[32] This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. " [Ephesians Chapter 5]
No wonder Roman Catholicism gets stuff wrong. The word in Ephesians 5:32, τὸ μυστήριον, is only translated as "sacrament" in the Vulgate.
No other major translation renders it this way. The word conveys the meaning of:
the content of that which has not been known before but which has been revealed to an in-group or restricted constituency
Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 344). New York: United Bible Societies.
3466 mystḗrion (the root of the English term, "mystery") – mystery. In the Bible, a "mystery" (3466 /mystḗrion) is not something unknowable. Rather, it is what can only be known through revelation, i.e. because God reveals it.
Then you might be able to prove that the RCC is the OTC.
No...but I can show you where Baptists are...as in John the Baptist!
I can even find the Bereans.
But no Roman Catholics.
Do you detect a small amount of 2 Cor 2:16A here? 😂😇
So what church do y’all attend on Sundays?
Or do you just ignore the Third Commandment?
I don’t care about the prots translations of the Bible. They been doing it to their whim ever since Luther.
The Greek word is NOT *sacrament*. It's *mystery*.
http://biblehub.com/greek/3466.htm
mustérion: a mystery or secret doctrine
Original Word: μυστήριον, ου, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: mustérion
Phonetic Spelling: (moos-tay'-ree-on)
Short Definition: anything hidden, a mystery
Definition: a mystery, secret, of which initiation is necessary; in the NT: the counsels of God, once hidden but now revealed in the Gospel or some fact thereof; the Christian revelation generally; particular truths or details of the Christian revelation.
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3466 mystḗrion (the root of the English term, "mystery") – mystery. In the Bible, a "mystery" (3466 /mystḗrion) is not something unknowable. Rather, it is what can only be known through revelation, i.e. because God reveals it.
Protestants follow their own man-made traditions, not the Sacred Traditions handed down by the Apostles and preserved by the Holy Spirit.
Salvation by faith is in Scripture. It’s not a tradition.
I gave you the supporting passages.
Scripture is all that’s needed to make the man of God complete for every good work.
I posted that Scripture, too.
Prove your traditions were from the apostles and that they were handed down faithfully, having been protected by the Holy Spirit.
Provide the links to document your assertions because your say so isn't enough.
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There are no “Sacred Traditions handed down by the Apostles and preserved by the Holy Spirit.”
Yehova gave us his Torah, and his prophets, and that is all there is.
Yeshua denounced all “traditions” when he was here during his ministry, and declared that Torah is what there is as long as the Earth and the heavens exist. (Matthew 5)
You do know that what the Latin Church calls “sacraments” are referred to by the Greeks as “mysteries.” Since the term “mystery” did not yet exist in Latin, Jerome used the Latin term “sacrament.” Same concept, different words. The seven sacraments of the Latins are the same as the seven mysteries of the Greeks.
It's not a "prot" translation.
The Greek is the Greek.
We haven't even gotten into the context of the sentence yet.
Roman Catholics have goofed up this translation just as they did Genesis 3:15 which has lead to so much false theology.
Salvation by faith is indeed in Scripture. This is not in dispute. What is not in Scripture is salvation by faith alone. This is an invention of Martin Luther.
Unam Sanctam.
I know the word in Ephesians 5:32 is not translated as sacrament.
All that is need is proof that the present Catholic Church is the same as that established by Jesus Christ. This is an historical fact. No Protestant church, visible or invisible, can make this claim.
If you don’t have faith in Christ...what else would save you?
You state.....”What is not in Scripture is salvation by faith alone.”....
...I will show you my faith by my works, which means I have faith BEFORE I do any works....... Our faith is invisible and can only be expressed outwardly to man by our works. ....This is the point that James emphasized.... we show our faith by our deeds to our fellow man - ‘Not for our salvation’...
Works and deeds..’accompany’ Salvation.....James is ‘not’ explaining how to be saved but is telling them if they are saved they should show it by their works,... understand the difference... good works comes from being ‘in Christ’.... Good works do Not put us in Christ.
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