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"Catholics Will Have to Decide Whether They Guard the Faith Over Papolatry"
Gloria TV ^ | July 17, 2017 | Gloria TV

Posted on 07/17/2017 8:08:32 AM PDT by ebb tide

“Francis is more interested in leftwing politics than in Catholic theology”, George Neumayr, contributing editor of The American Spectator, states talking to Tom Woods on July 14th on tomwoods.com. Woods describes Francis as a result of John Paul II who - as he puts it - appointed "absolutely terrible people" as bishops: "Catholics have suffered under Bergoglios for decades now”.

Neumayr agrees that a lot of the liberal bishops were appointed by John Paul II and Benedict XVI. He sees Francis as the “culmination of a century” of liberalism and modernism in the Church.

For him it is "highly unlikely" that Francis, who in his theology is “more a Protestant than a Catholic” will convert to Catholicism. Instead, the realistic scenario is that Francis will produce division and chaos, "Catholics will have to decide whether they guard the faith over papolatry.”

And: “The Cardinals have to declare that Francis is a bad pope who must be resisted.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; protestants
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To: metmom

The Bible shows that the Church in her pastors teaches with the authority of the Holy Spirit. That is enough. But of course if you don’t actually believe in the Bible…


141 posted on 07/17/2017 5:33:28 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Like what traditions?

Give us an example of *Protestant* tradition that non-Catholics follow that are on equal basis with Scripture as the RCC *sacred tradition* is.


142 posted on 07/17/2017 5:33:54 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom; aMorePerfectUnion
[31] For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. [32] This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. " [Ephesians Chapter 5]

Or did Luther toss that book too?

143 posted on 07/17/2017 5:36:23 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Ann Archy
LOL!! WHAT Church do you belong to....you are such a HYPOCRITE you will just answer “Christian”, but that;s not how it works, bud...there are SECTS of Christianity....but you don’t belong to ANY of them....too pure, I guess or too cheap to GIVE to a CHURCH.

And again the Roman Catholic is the first to use profanity or get personal when the argument goes against them.

I'd be willing say I give more than the typical Roman Catholic based on surveys of people giving to their church.

144 posted on 07/17/2017 5:37:17 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Ann Archy; ealgeone

ealgeone doesn’t NEED to belong to a church.

He belongs to JESUS and that is all anyone needs.

FWIW, I don’t belong to a church.


145 posted on 07/17/2017 5:38:09 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Petrosius
All sins are indeed forgiven by baptism. But what of sins committed afterwards?

There is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood.

Dunking someone in water or pouring it on them does NOT remove sin from the spirit.

Water is not the right medium to apply to sin for the forgiveness of it.

146 posted on 07/17/2017 5:39:41 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ealgeone

As a Lutheran I do not follow Luther or Paul. I follow Christ.


147 posted on 07/17/2017 5:40:31 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: ealgeone

Maybe she’s looking for a ‘temple reccomend’ ...


148 posted on 07/17/2017 5:40:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ealgeone

Maybe she’s looking for a ‘temple reccomend’ ...


149 posted on 07/17/2017 5:41:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; ealgeone; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion
Ealgeone and me and a list of many belong to the ONLY church that matters.

You are correct sir. I am glad I belong to the one true church. 🙃😇😀

150 posted on 07/17/2017 5:42:38 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Ann Archy; ealgeone
LOL!! WHAT Church do you belong to....you are such a HYPOCRITE you will just answer “Christian”, but that;s not how it works, bud...there are SECTS of Christianity....but you don’t belong to ANY of them....too pure, I guess or too cheap to GIVE to a CHURCH.

Why would anyone want to *swim the Tiber* when this is an example of what Catholics behave like?

You are aware, aren't you, that you can give to a church without belonging to it?

And besides, what do you know about ealgeone's giving habits?

You're making quite the presumption and treating it as truth with no basis whatsoever.

151 posted on 07/17/2017 5:43:37 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

These flame bait threads attacking the Reformation are being posted on a daily basis. I’m sure it will get worse this fall. There are those that cannot stand the thought that their errors have been exposed and corrected and the Reformation has lasted 500 years. Their loss but we should avoid being drawn into the same tired old tactics. All these threads are designed to do is provoke argument so those that started it can run to mommy and daddy to get the big bad Christians banned. I for one am done playing


152 posted on 07/17/2017 5:45:22 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Ann Archy
omg...The Catholic Church is the ONE TRUE CHURCH and you ALL know it, you just don’t like the RULES!!

Legalism gets no one to heaven.

And if the rules were God's commands, that would be one thing.

They aren't.

So why would someone want to put themselves under the authority of a bunch of useless rules and regulations?

153 posted on 07/17/2017 5:45:24 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion
Roman Catholics continue to delude themselves in thinking Christians follow Luther.
154 posted on 07/17/2017 5:46:34 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom
Give us an example of *Protestant* tradition that non-Catholics follow that are on equal basis with Scripture as the RCC *sacred tradition* is.

That's the problem. Protestants don't follow any traditions. That why there are so many sects of protestants that disagree on birth control, abortion, homosexual marriage, divorce, etc. Name me one protestant sect that condoned homosexual marriage or abortion 100 years ago.

That is what this article is about Jorge Bergolio is a protestant, not a Catholic.

155 posted on 07/17/2017 5:47:06 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Petrosius

Could you show us where the words *Roman Catholic church* are found in the Bible?

Then you might be able to prove that the RCC is the OTC.


156 posted on 07/17/2017 5:47:07 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide

I don’t see the word *sacrament* in anything you posted.


157 posted on 07/17/2017 5:48:18 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom
Like what traditions?

Give us an example of *Protestant* tradition that non-Catholics follow that are on equal basis with Scripture as the RCC *sacred tradition* is.

Faith alone, Scripture alone.

158 posted on 07/17/2017 5:48:19 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: ebb tide; Petrosius
That's the problem. Protestants don't follow any traditions.

Do we or don't we?

I guess it depends some on which Catholic we are talking to.

159 posted on 07/17/2017 5:50:47 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Mom MD

You should probably notice that this thread was about a Catholic topic. It was when Protestants entered to attack Catholic beliefs that the Catholics rose up to defend themselves.


160 posted on 07/17/2017 5:51:22 PM PDT by Petrosius
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