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Remarried Couples Should Abstain from Sex, Philadelphia Catholic Church Says
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 7/6/17 | Stephanie Kirchgaessner

Posted on 07/07/2017 7:45:07 PM PDT by marshmallow

Archbishop Charles Chaput also stated that gay Catholics should also ‘live chastely’ in new rules issued after Pope Francis urged more acceptance of others

Catholics in Philadelphia who are divorced and civilly remarried will be welcome to accept Holy Communion – as long as they abstain from sex and live out their relationships like “brother and sister”.

New guidelines published by the conservative archbishop of Philadelphia this month also called on priests within the archdiocese to help Catholics who are attracted to people of the same sex and “find chastity very difficult”, saying such individuals should be advised to frequently seek penance. Because same-sex attraction takes “diverse forms”, the archdiocese also said that some people can still live out a vocation of heterosexual marriage with children, notwithstanding “some degree of same-sex attraction”.

The guidelines, which took effect on 1 July, come three months after Pope Francis urged bishops to be more accepting of Catholics who lived outside of the church’s social teaching and doctrine, including people who have divorced and remarried, and people in same-sex relationships. The pope’s views were published in April in a document titled Amoris Laetitia (Joy of Love), which was hailed as potentially groundbreaking. Because the document called on bishops to show greater mercy and flexibility to bring Catholics back to the church, while also calling on bishops not to veer from church doctrine, it was seen as giving both traditional and more progressively minded bishops the chance to interpret the document as they saw fit.

The Philadelphia archbishop, Charles Chaput, is known as one of the staunchest conservative leaders in the US Catholic church, a view that is reflected in the rules the archdiocese published.

John Allen, a veteran Vatican journalist, said he believed Philadelphia was among the first archdiocese to publish such rules based on.....

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To: cmj328

-——Christ said don’t divorce and whoever divorces a woman and marries another commits adultery against her.——

You might want to read some commentary outside of the RCC teaching that contextual would shed some light on what the Lord was teaching about....

He was actually pointing out what hypocrites the religious leaders of that time were...not condemning divorced people to a celibate life...


21 posted on 07/07/2017 8:31:48 PM PDT by Popman
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To: cmj328

Remarried (after divorce) = not married, don’t have sex.

Remarried (after widowhood) = married, please have sex.

Remarried (after annulment) = married for the first time.


Concise.

The question is why can some get an annulment and others can’t?


22 posted on 07/07/2017 8:35:44 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Popman

I guess the RCC doesn’t believe in the grace of God though the redemption of Christ on the Cross...

Two sinners divorced for maybe good reasons should live like brother and sister....?


Flaw in this analysis is they were married in the Catholic Church.


23 posted on 07/07/2017 8:37:58 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: marshmallow

If it weren’t for sex there’d be no second marriages ever.

Just saying.

L


24 posted on 07/07/2017 8:39:31 PM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: bramps

“Considering that the Bible teaches that mere lust equates to sex in the context of adultery, maybe we should all just keep our eyes closed 24/7.”

Not really. It says it’s adultery in the heart.

“In the heart” clearly delineates it from being equated to actual sex.


25 posted on 07/07/2017 8:41:51 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: bramps
"Considering that the Bible teaches that mere lust equates to sex in the context of adultery, maybe we should all just keep our eyes closed 24/7."

Jesus addresses that as well:

"And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." - Matthew 5:29

"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire." - Matthew 18:9
(Then you won't have to worry about going around with your eyes closed all the time.)      :)
26 posted on 07/07/2017 8:56:51 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: marshmallow

Uh...do not really care what some cardinal says. What does Scripture say??? If a decision is not based on Scripture, it is simply man’s tradition.


27 posted on 07/07/2017 9:15:05 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: wyowolf; marshmallow
This doctrine is not Catholic nor Christian non-Catholic; it is Scriptural and divine.

>Realize that it also has a missional implication in evangelizing cultures that are not monogamous (be it American or foreign). But the remarried couple wishing to heed God's Word and follow it should not cohabit, nor should they separate, divorce, or re-remarry. These are secular and devilish in finding ungodly methods to dealing with their predicament.

For a solidly correct exposition of this matter, read through the article "THE SIN OF REMARRIAGE ADULTERY" (click here), in which the ending text states:

There are some in America who have followed a similar pattern to abstain from cohabitation adultery so as to please the Lord and abstain from uncleanness and defilement. Certainly those who truly love The Father and one another would prefer such an arrangement to that of being excluded from inheriting Eternal Life and the Kingdom of The God. . .

It is imperative that the couple fall on their knees before God and seek His face and direction as to how to perform His will in this matter. But remember it is vital that we “Continually abstain from semblances of every wicked thing” (1 Thes. 5:22 APT*).

* A Precise Translation)

28 posted on 07/07/2017 9:21:56 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: lee martell

The situation is not what you seem to think. The Archbishop is talking about people who have married civilly but invalidly. They may have children. It would be unjust to the children for the mother and father to live apart. Such people can receive communion provided they abstain from acts of adultery.


29 posted on 07/07/2017 9:34:04 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Popman

Your anti-Catholic bigotry comes through, but your comments are so incoherent it’s impossible to guess what you are trying to say.


30 posted on 07/07/2017 9:36:34 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: ifinnegan

An annulment is a declaration that a marriage was null from the beginning.

When people seek an annulment and it is not granted, the reason is that no invalidating fact was discovered.


31 posted on 07/07/2017 9:41:09 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: marshmallow

This is journalism?

I’m sure the directives are far less ambiguous.


32 posted on 07/07/2017 9:41:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MtnClimber

Totally irrelevant.


33 posted on 07/07/2017 9:42:38 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: wyowolf

But try. Try to use your words.

There are four places in the New Testament where Our Lord teaches that to divorce one spouse and marry another, is adultery.

Is the better solution just to get an X-Acto knife and cut out those parts?

Or maybe just footnote it with, “Don’t worry, He’s not serious”?


34 posted on 07/07/2017 9:49:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (They said what's down is up, they said what isn't is, they put ideas in his head he thought were his)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Maybe, but there’s apparently one place in the NT where it’s perfectly fine. Matthew 5:31


35 posted on 07/07/2017 9:54:47 PM PDT by Malcolm Reynolds
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To: Malcolm Reynolds

Your comment implies that Jesus is contradicting Himself, but I think the true meaning is based on how we are to understand the phrase “except for porneia”.

Historically, and in context, the church has understood this to mean, “except in the case of an unlawful sexual union”-— that is, if the first union were not a valid, God-made bond to begin with.


36 posted on 07/07/2017 10:25:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil.)
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To: lee martell

Interesting. That’s very close to what the Apostles said when they objected to this teaching.


37 posted on 07/07/2017 10:29:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("" Ya could look it up!" - FReeper jjotto)
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To: BobL

If you’re validly married, you should have sex. If not, not.

That’s been the rule for a really long time.


38 posted on 07/07/2017 10:32:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("" Ya could look it up!" - FReeper jjotto)
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To: firebrand

Probably true. One of the terrible consequences of being stuck with a church that’s stuck with Jesus.


39 posted on 07/07/2017 10:35:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("" Ya could look it up!" - FReeper jjotto)
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To: MtnClimber

I guess this would not apply to drug fueled gay sex parties for church officials or am I missing something?


That is what I was wondering.


40 posted on 07/07/2017 10:41:25 PM PDT by Yaelle
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