Posted on 06/26/2017 8:05:42 AM PDT by Salvation
In the Gospel for Monday of the 12th Week in Ordinary Time, there is a Scripture passage that is almost too well known. I say this because the world has wielded like a club to swing at Christians. The text is quoted almost as if it represented the entirety of the Bibles teaching; it is often used to shut down discussions of what is right vs. wrong, what is virtuous vs. sinful. Even many Christians misinterpret the passage as a mandate to be silent in the face of sin and evil. I say that it is too well known because it is remembered while everything else in the Scriptures that balances or clarifies it is forgotten. Here is the passage:
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brothers eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite! First take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers eye (Matt 7:1-5).
Anytime the Church or an individual Christian labels a particular behavior as wrong or sinful, wagging fingers are raised. This is followed, in an indignant tone, with something like this: Youre being judgmental! The Bible says, Judge not. Who are you to judge your neighbor? This is clearly an attempt to shut down discussion and to shame Christians, or the Church, into silence.
To a large degree this tactic has worked. Modern culture has succeeded in shaming many Christians from this essential work: correcting the sinner. Too many are terrified when they are said to be judging someone by calling attention to sin or wrongdoing. In a culture in which tolerance (a mistaken notion of tolerance at that) is one of the only virtues left, judging is deemed one of the worst offenses.
Pay careful attention to what this Gospel text is actually saying. The judgment spoken of does not refer to discerning between right and wrong. Rather, it refers to determining punishment or condemnation. The next sentence makes this clear when it speaks of the measure we use, the level of condemnation, harshness, or punishment. A parallel passage in Lukes Gospel makes this clear:
Stop judging and you will not be judged. Stop condemning and you will not be condemned. Forgive and you will be forgiven. For the measure with which you measure will in return be measured out to you (Luke 6:36-38).
The judgment here refers to unnecessarily harsh and punitive condemnation. To paraphrase the opening verses colloquially, Be careful not to condemn, because if you lower the boom on others, you will have the boom lowered on you. If you throw the book at others, it will be thrown at you.
Further, the parable that follows in the passage above from the Gospel of Matthew does not say that we should refrain from correcting sinners. Rather, it says that we should get right with God and understand our own sin in order that we will see clearly enough to be able to correct our brother. Far from forbidding the correction of the sinner, the passage actually emphasizes the importance of correction by underscoring the importance of doing it well and with humility and integrity.
One of the most forgotten obligations we have is that of correcting the sinner. It is listed among the Spiritual Works of Mercy. St. Thomas Aquinas lists it in the Summa Theologica as a work of Charity:
[F]raternal correction properly so called, is directed to the amendment of the sinner. Now to do away with anyone’s evil is the same as to procure his good: and to procure a persons good is an act of charity, whereby we wish and do our friend well (Summa Thelogica II, IIae, 33.1).
Go be sure, there are some judgments that are forbidden us.
Scripture both commends and commands fraternal correction: I remarked above that the Gospel from todays Mass is too well known because it has been embraced to the exclusion of everything else in the Bible on the subject of correcting sinners. Over and over again Scripture tells us to correct the sinner. Far from forbidding fraternal correction, the Scriptures command and commend it. I would like to share some of those texts here and add a little commentary of my own in red text.
There are more of these passages, but Im sure you get the point by now. Fraternal correction, correcting the sinner, is prescribed and consistently commanded by Scripture. We must resist the shame that the world tries to inflict on us for judging people. Not all judgment is forbidden; in fact, some judgment is commanded. Correction of the sinner is both charitable and virtuous.
We have failed to correct – If we are to have any shame about fraternal correction, it should be that we have failed to correct when necessary. Because of our failure in this regard the world is a much more sinful, coarse, and undisciplined place. Too many people today are out of control, undisciplined, and incorrigible. Too many are locked in sin and have never been properly corrected. The world is less pleasant and charitable, less teachable. It is also more sinful and in greater bondage. To fail to correct is to fail in charity and mercy; it is to fail to be virtuous and to fail in calling others to virtue. We are all impoverished by our failure to correct the sinner. He who winks at a fault causes trouble; but he who frankly reproves promotes peace. … A path to life is his who heeds admonition; but he who disregards reproof goes go astray (Proverbs 10:10, 17).
The following video basically captures the problem that Christians face and explains fairly well some of the distinctions I make here:
Monsignor Pope Ping!
Warning a sinner of the eternal consequences of his or her behavioral choices is an act of mercy......eternal hell awaits the wicked
Discernment is NOT judgement. I can identify the type of sin a person is slave to without condemning them, as I don’t have the right of condemnation.
Warning a sinner of the eternal consequences of his or her behavioral choices is an act of mercy......eternal hell awaits the wicked, God will judge according to his word, (it’s all in the Bible)
Problem is that people concerned about “correcting the sinner” never see themselves as a sinner in need of correction. It’s always other people needing correction.
The older I get, the more I perceive any sort of spiritual pretension directed at others to be a fraud and a deception.
All spiritual development is to be found within the self, no exceptions. Anything directed outward is always aimed at controlling others.
Useful message for those who love to throw out Matthew 7:1 any time someone says something they don’t like.
**Problem is that people concerned about correcting the sinner never see themselves **
“Never” is an all-encompassing word that could mean everyone.
Is that what you wanted to say?
I struggle with this. I think there are people who are OBLIGEd to judge our actions (priests, bishops, deacons, etc.). As a Joe Shmoe in the Catholic Church, I’m obligated to try to live my life and guide my family in Catholic Christian tenets, but I fear hat correcting others might be above my pay grade. Something else to pray over, I guess.
I have my moments also, but I’m going to feel pretty shameful explaining to Jesus why I cast the first stone.
Yes that is what I want to say.
People exercising real spiritual leadership lead by example, they don’t go around wagging fingers at other people.
The very fact of being more concerned with another’s sins than one’s own changes the conversation from a spiritual/philosophical one (self improvement and personal development) to a political one (control over the actions of others).
Bottom line: If you learn to control yourself, you will see no need whatsoever to control anyone else.
1 Cor 5:1
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
If some one is part of a Church the Church has every right to chastise them because they are part of the body of Christ.
For those who are with out the Church can only preach the Gospel because we are not of this world, we do not have the control.
It doesn’t look like a caucus thread, so I’ll point out it is hard to call the world to repent and Save yourselves from the punishment coming on this wicked people!...Repent, then, and turn to God, so that he will forgive your sins. - to quote Peter - without ever mentioning sin.
And within the church, a fellow named Paul said, “After all, it is none of my business to judge outsiders. God will judge them. But should you not judge the members of your own fellowship? As the scripture says, Remove the evil person from your group.
The context is instructive:
“Do not judge others, so that God will not judge you, 2 for God will judge you in the same way you judge others, and he will apply to you the same rules you apply to others. 3 Why, then, do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the log in your own eye? 4 How dare you say to your brother, Please, let me take that speck out of your eye, when you have a log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will be able to see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”
We are not to delight in the sins of others, and enjoy rebuking them while ignoring our own sinfulness. We cannot use other peoples sins to excuse our own, nor use our own to excuse other people. We need to acknowledge that God condemns sin - but we need to leave judgment in the hands of God. We warn others of what God has said, while acknowledging we are sinners needing grace as well.
Scripture lays out the proper process for addressing issues that come up in the church, but motive has a lot to do with it.
Are you judging to judge or fell good about yourself, or are you doing it with the motivation because you see someone going off on a wrong path and need/want to help them?
If we are so worried about the idea that correcting someone is stone casting, nobody would ever be corrected and that would not be good either.
I had an acquaintance I was trying to help and it required confronting her about some of her own self-destructive behavior, shop lifting, drinking, etc.
She got offended when I called her shoplifting *stealing*, but it’s what needed to be done.
Her alcoholism was destroying her and it would do no good to her to let her continue down that path without trying to say something.
Sometimes love demands that something be said or action be taken.
I would hope that if someone saw me going off on a bad track that they would care enough to say something.
If you are correcting someone because of control issues, then yes, that is wrong.
If you are correcting someone because they are in a situation that involves sin and maybe they don’t see it and need someone to point it out, out of concern, that’s a different matter.
Yet isn't that precisely what Roman Catholicism says about non-Catholics?
"Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).
Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.
"But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us" (2 Thessalonians 3:6).
"And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother" (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).
"Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself" (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).
"Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple" (Romans 16:17,18).
All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep's skin.
We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." (John 7:24). with ignorance after all.
Pointing out what the Scriptures say on certain subjects is NOT condemnation.
John 3:18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
Satan sure has you two wimped out!
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