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To: Zuriel

“Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. “**

Your comment: “If that is LITERALLY true...”

While not well known there are many instances, including:

1) Lanciano, Italy 8th century a priest-monk celebrating Mass with recurrent doubts about the Real Presence of our Lord as he had just spoken the solemn words of Consecration when the host was suddenly changed into a circle of flesh, and the wine was transformed into visible blood.

Upon several examinations, the latest scientific one in 1970
determined that the flesh was identified as striated muscular tissue of the myocardium (heart wall), having no trace whatsoever of any agents for the preservation of flesh.

Both blood and flesh were determined to be human with type AB blood. While both had been conserved in receptacles and not hermetically sealed, they were not damaged. The Body and Blood of Jesus can be observed in the upper tabernacle at the Church of St Francis.

2)Brussels, Belgium 1370. On Good Friday April 4, 1370 some Jews assembled in their synagogue with 15 hosts. Laying on a table inflicted both verbal and physical abuse including the stabbing of the hosts with knives. Immediately, before the stunned eyes, blood flowed from the stab wounds. There is more to the story.

3)Stich, West Germany 1970 (2 miracles)Tuesday June 9, 1970 The priest after the Consecration noticed on the corporal next to the Chalice a small reddish spot that grew to the size of a coin and another stain where the chalice has been placed. The cloths were examined at a local clinic by 4 separate professionals and they determined that it was human blood and one indicated that it was from a man in agony.

On July 14, 1970 the same Swiss priest at the same Stich Chapel said Mass after checking that the altar cloths were absolutely clean. However after consecration, 4 spots appeared. One was the size of a priest’s host with a cross was visible on it.

4) Siena, Italy 1730 Consecrated Hosts stolen from the Basilica of St. Francis in year 1730. The Hosts have remained fresh and incorrupt for over 250 years.

There are many more incidents over the centuries and some very recently in Poland, Mexico and Argentina.

One shouldn’t need a miracle to believe the Words of Jesus as both literal and true.


373 posted on 06/03/2017 12:53:59 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
1) Lanciano, Italy 8th century a priest-monk celebrating Mass with recurrent doubts about the Real Presence of our Lord as he had just spoken the solemn words of Consecration when the host was suddenly changed into a circle of flesh, and the wine was transformed into visible blood.

Upon several examinations, the latest scientific one in 1970 determined that the flesh was identified as striated muscular tissue of the myocardium (heart wall), having no trace whatsoever of any agents for the preservation of flesh.

A few more details:

One day, a certain monk was offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Although we do not know his identity, an ancient document described him as ...versed in the sciences of the world but ignorant in that of God. Apparently, he had been plagued by doubts about transubstantiation: he agonized over whether the bread and wine changed substantially into the Body and Blood of our Lord at the words of consecration, and whether our Lord was truly present in the Holy Eucharist.

This time, when the monk pronounced the words of consecration, the host was miraculously changed into flesh and the wine into blood. The monk was awestruck. Weeping joyously, he regained his composure. He called the congregation around the altar and said, O fortunate witnesses, to whom the Blessed God, to confound my unbelief, has wished to reveal Himself visible to our eyes! Come, brethren, and marvel at our God, so close to us. Behold the Flesh and Blood of our Most Beloved Christ. Those who witnessed the miracle soon spread the news throughout the surrounding area.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/the-miracle-of-lanciano.html

What this tells us is no one was able to discern the RCC claim of transubstantiation, that the elements actually changed to flesh and blood, prior to this event in the 8th century.

This is also reminiscent of the unbelieving Jews Jesus was addressing in John 6.

28Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” 29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.” 30So they said to Him, “What then do You do for a sign, so that we may see, and believe You? What work do You perform? 31“Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, ‘HE GAVE THEM BREAD OUT OF HEAVEN TO EAT.’” 32Jesus then said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven. 33“For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.” 34Then they said to Him, “Lord, always give us this bread.” 35Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. 36“But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe. 37“All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. 38“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39“This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40“For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:28-40 NASB

The Roman Catholic continues to look for a sign.

If, as Roman Catholicism claims, the elements should actually taste like real flesh and blood.

That no one has recoiled at the taste of the elements we can conclude the RCC claim is false.

378 posted on 06/03/2017 2:20:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM

Supposedly.

Just a story, an unsubstantiated account.


384 posted on 06/03/2017 2:37:30 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM
Lanciano, Italy 8th century a priest-monk celebrating Mass with recurrent doubts about the Real Presence of our Lord as he had just spoken the solemn words of Consecration when the host was suddenly changed into a circle of flesh, and the wine was transformed into visible blood.

And Pharaohs magicians would have said, "SO?"

430 posted on 06/03/2017 7:06:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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