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To: ADSUM
1) Lanciano, Italy 8th century a priest-monk celebrating Mass with recurrent doubts about the Real Presence of our Lord as he had just spoken the solemn words of Consecration when the host was suddenly changed into a circle of flesh, and the wine was transformed into visible blood.

Upon several examinations, the latest scientific one in 1970 determined that the flesh was identified as striated muscular tissue of the myocardium (heart wall), having no trace whatsoever of any agents for the preservation of flesh.

A few more details:

One day, a certain monk was offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Although we do not know his identity, an ancient document described him as ...versed in the sciences of the world but ignorant in that of God. Apparently, he had been plagued by doubts about transubstantiation: he agonized over whether the bread and wine changed substantially into the Body and Blood of our Lord at the words of consecration, and whether our Lord was truly present in the Holy Eucharist.

This time, when the monk pronounced the words of consecration, the host was miraculously changed into flesh and the wine into blood. The monk was awestruck. Weeping joyously, he regained his composure. He called the congregation around the altar and said, O fortunate witnesses, to whom the Blessed God, to confound my unbelief, has wished to reveal Himself visible to our eyes! Come, brethren, and marvel at our God, so close to us. Behold the Flesh and Blood of our Most Beloved Christ. Those who witnessed the miracle soon spread the news throughout the surrounding area.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/the-miracle-of-lanciano.html

What this tells us is no one was able to discern the RCC claim of transubstantiation, that the elements actually changed to flesh and blood, prior to this event in the 8th century.

This is also reminiscent of the unbelieving Jews Jesus was addressing in John 6.

28Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” 29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.” 30So they said to Him, “What then do You do for a sign, so that we may see, and believe You? What work do You perform? 31“Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, ‘HE GAVE THEM BREAD OUT OF HEAVEN TO EAT.’” 32Jesus then said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven. 33“For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.” 34Then they said to Him, “Lord, always give us this bread.” 35Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. 36“But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe. 37“All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. 38“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39“This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40“For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:28-40 NASB

The Roman Catholic continues to look for a sign.

If, as Roman Catholicism claims, the elements should actually taste like real flesh and blood.

That no one has recoiled at the taste of the elements we can conclude the RCC claim is false.

378 posted on 06/03/2017 2:20:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Your comments: “ The Roman Catholic continues to look for a sign.

If, as Roman Catholicism claims, the elements should actually taste like real flesh and blood.

That no one has recoiled at the taste of the elements we can conclude the RCC claim is false. “

The true disciples and Catholics have faith in the words of Jesus and 2000 years of the Sacrament of the Eucharist that Jesus initiated at the Last Supper.

So you did not dispute the facts, except for taste. So you presume to tell Jesus how to do the Transubstantiation?


394 posted on 06/03/2017 5:21:51 PM PDT by ADSUM
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