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To: ADSUM
One should understand the whole Bible and not assume that one or several passages save you.

If you can't admit that there are many, many scriptures in the bible that show and teach that Christians can not lose their salvation, you'll never convince me nor hundreds of millions of other bible believing Christians that you understand the bible...

232 posted on 06/01/2017 9:15:12 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Bingo again bro. That’s two in one day. Would you like to try for a third?


234 posted on 06/01/2017 9:54:51 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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To: Iscool

You can dream that you are right, but your presumption and perhaps your lack of understanding does not agree with the words of Jesus Christ. You and many others who believe that they can not lose their salvation may be in for a surprise upon your death. I do hope that you and many others find salvation with our Lord, but you must endure to the end. I do feel that it is wrong to give false hope to others.

Scripture teaches that one’s final salvation depends on the state of the soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, “He who endures to the end will be saved” (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31–46). One who dies in the state of friendship with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state of enmity and rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to hell.

Regarding the issue of whether Christians have an “absolute” assurance of salvation, regardless of their actions, consider this warning Paul gave: “See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off” (Rom. 11:22; see also Heb. 10:26–29, 2 Pet. 2:20–21).


242 posted on 06/01/2017 12:38:32 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Iscool
If you can't admit that there are many, many scriptures in the bible that show and teach that Christians can not lose their salvation, you'll never convince me nor hundreds of millions of other bible believing Christians that you understand the bible...

Likewise...

...If you can't admit that there are many, many scriptures in the bible that show and teach that Christians CAN lose their salvation, you'll never convince me nor hundreds of millions of other bible believing Christians that you understand the bible...

311 posted on 06/02/2017 3:55:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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