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Forgiveness: Muslims Moved as Coptic Christians Do the Unimaginable
Christianity Today ^ | 4/20/17 | Jayson Casper

Posted on 04/21/2017 5:01:45 PM PDT by marshmallow

Twelve seconds of silence is an awkward eternity on television. Amr Adeeb, perhaps the most prominent talk show host in Egypt, leaned forward as he searched for a response.

“The Copts of Egypt … are made of … steel!” he finally uttered.

Moments earlier, Adeeb was watching a colleague in a simple home in Alexandria speak with the widow of Naseem Faheem, the guard at St. Mark’s Cathedral in the seaside Mediterranean city.

On Palm Sunday, the guard had redirected a suicide bomber through the perimeter metal detector, where the terrorist detonated. Likely the first to die in the blast, Faheem saved the lives of dozens inside the church.

“I’m not angry at the one who did this,” said his wife, children by her side. “I’m telling him, ‘May God forgive you, and we also forgive you. Believe me, we forgive you.’

“‘You put my husband in a place I couldn’t have dreamed of.’”

Stunned, Adeeb stammered about Copts bearing atrocities over hundreds of years, but couldn’t escape the central scandal.

“How great is this forgiveness you have!” his voice cracked. “If it were my father, I could never say this. But this is their faith and religious conviction.”

Millions marveled with him across the airwaves of Egypt.

So also did millions of Copts, recently rediscovering their ancient heritage, according to Ramez Atallah, president of the Bible Society of Egypt which subtitled and recirculated the satellite TV clip.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: egyptcopts; forgiveness; stmarks; terrorattack
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To: marshmallow

Thanks for posting that.


41 posted on 04/21/2017 6:50:36 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: soycd

“Forgiveness is for mistakes, not murder and mayhem.”

Thank God He doesn’t believe that!

Stubbing your toe in the dark is a mistake. Leaving your coffee cup on the roof of your car when pulling out of the drive way is a mistake. They don’t need forgiveness. Sins need forgiveness and sinners (all of us!) need it most of all!


42 posted on 04/21/2017 6:53:13 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Sasparilla

Exactly


43 posted on 04/21/2017 6:54:46 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: soycd

Then Jesus words of *Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do* for those who were in the process of crucifying Him mean nothing to you?

We are to forgive as we have been forgiven and there’s not a one of us who doesn’t have the potential to be just as bad as the one’s we abhor.

But for the grace of God, go I.

And you, too.

Because in your heart, you have already committed the sin, just as any of us who have hated someone has.

God sees the heart and when you have done in your heart He considers that you have done.

Lust = adultery and hatred = murder.

Forgiveness is what sets Christianity apart from every other religion.


44 posted on 04/21/2017 6:57:54 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: x1stcav

Justice WILL be done and forgiveness doesn’t mean justice isn’t dispensed.


45 posted on 04/21/2017 6:58:59 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: blueplum
I was taught if you forgive someone, the burden of their sin is taken off your shoulders and piled on the shoulders of the perpetrator. It is, in a way, a damnation. You become a freed witness, not a bound victim anymore. I probably didn’t say it the right way, but that’s the gist of it.

When you forgive you give up your claim to retaliation and put the person in God's hands.

Then God can deal with the person as HE sees fit.

Forgiveness is healing for the person forgiving and look at the testimony it is to the world.

People will be saved as a result of that testimony.

46 posted on 04/21/2017 7:01:08 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: piytar

Perfect.


47 posted on 04/21/2017 7:02:54 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: soycd

I did not talk about the elimination of people.

I only said that Jesus is pure justice after we die.


48 posted on 04/21/2017 7:10:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Honorary Serb

Paradise was a waiting place for the people who died in Old Testament times.

Even Christ didn’t go to heaven at the moment he died. He descended to those waiting in Paradise to tell that that heaven would soon be opened.


49 posted on 04/21/2017 7:13:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: tbpiper

The Good Thief had led an evil life, but he asked Jesus to remember him when he came into his Kingdom.


50 posted on 04/21/2017 7:14:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Ajnin

The aerage person is not able to do that. Further we do not personally just invade others countries like some folks think its okay to do.

We pray for these Christians in their trouble, we pray the efforts of the enemy are thwarted, and we petition our government to act on the behalf of our fellow Christians.


51 posted on 04/21/2017 7:17:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marshmallow
https://vimeo.com/212755977

Incredible video. The commentator's expression is worth watching. Shows the power of forgiveness.

52 posted on 04/21/2017 7:25:50 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: FreedomStar3028

It can break cycles of retribution for which there can be no end. Not without forgiveness, and not until The End, when the One will repay, for vengeance is His, thus sayeth the Lord.

Now when the Lamb opened the seventh seal there was silence in heaven for about half an hour
I've always taken the meaning of that to be along lines of choice #5 (and nothing else) here

53 posted on 04/21/2017 7:56:42 PM PDT by BlueDragon (There was an Angel standing in the sun crying with a loud voice this is the Supper of the Mighty One)
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To: marshmallow
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited. Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary:
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. (Romans 12:14-21)

It is only through God's grace that we can find the strength and ability to forgive those who commit evil against us. Those who do not know the true God can only think of getting their revenge and that only breeds MORE evil, paybacks and war.

54 posted on 04/21/2017 9:00:53 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: soycd

Jesus died for forgiveness. All have fallen short of the glory of God. This act may well resound among the Egyptian Muslims—No such forgiveness is found in the pages of the Koran. Reminds me of the Amish who suffered the deaths of their children to a murderous fiend. Worry not-—the good book tells how it will all end—we win.


55 posted on 04/21/2017 9:05:31 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

>Jesus died for forgiveness.

So far, so good.

>All have fallen short of the glory of God.

Of that, there is no doubt.

>This act may well resound among the Egyptian Muslims—No such forgiveness is found in the pages of the Koran.

The morans accepting the koran, are simple morons.

>Reminds me of the Amish who suffered the deaths of their children to a murderous fiend.

Kill those that would kill thee first. Real simple.

>Worry not-—the good book tells how it will all end—we win.

There is no recipe for disaster. Humans write books, God determines fate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHlidfF7nK8


56 posted on 04/21/2017 9:16:26 PM PDT by soycd
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To: marshmallow

Forgiving doesn’t make what they did right. It will never be right; it will always be wrong. If someone wants to forgive them for this great wrong then fine; just don’t make the mistake of thinking that forgiveness equals saying what they did was okay or a sign of weakness.

In fact it takes great courage to forgive someone like that. I’m not sure I’m capable of that level of forgiveness. I don’t think I am.

Those wrongs will have to be paid for one day in the afterlife. I have no idea what metric will be used but there must be consequences for that kind of pure evil.


57 posted on 04/21/2017 10:17:44 PM PDT by Boomer (The MSM and Radicalized Dem Party are One and the SAME!)
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To: Lurker

God may require repentance.

But this woman obviously does not.


58 posted on 04/21/2017 11:33:52 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: marshmallow

Got to remember that one of the last words Jesus said from the cross was to forgive.


59 posted on 04/22/2017 3:25:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Salvation

That is why on Holy Saturday until after sundown when there is the great vigil for Easter there is the silence of that day.


60 posted on 04/22/2017 3:32:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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