It’s amazing that you continue to defend that and yourself.
There’s nothing to refute, only something to condemn and you didn’t condemn one iota of it.
You merely continue to defend it.
Interesting, too, that I RARELY see any other Catholics ever condemn. Most of them slip immediately into the *everyone is a sinner* mode and defend or excuse the same kind of behavior they condemn in any non-Catholics or anyone who isn’t as perfect as Jesus Himself.
“It’s amazing that you continue to defend that and yourself.”
I never defended corruption - I merely pointed out it has always been gere - and you feel flat on your face and made no attempt to dispute that fact. Why would you? Everyone knows it’s true. Corruption has been here since Adam and Eve. Why would anyone pretend it is new or medieval?
“There’s nothing to refute, only something to condemn and you didn’t condemn one iota of it.”
Sure I have. After all the Faith teaches Adam and Eve sinned. Do you doubt it? If I use the word corruption how can that not be condemning it in itself? What you’re saying is as idiotic as saying that someone using the word “murder” rather than “justifiable killing” isn’t really condemning murder.
“You merely continue to defend it.”
Nope. But I suppose you have to make that false point because you have nothing else to say. After all you probably never realized that corruption has been here since Adam and Eve - because if you had then you never would have assumed there would be no corruption among human beings in the Church. Wherever you find people you find corruption.
“Interesting, too, that I RARELY see any other Catholics ever condemn. Most of them slip immediately into the *everyone is a sinner* mode and defend or excuse the same kind of behavior they condemn in any non-Catholics or anyone who isn’t as perfect as Jesus Himself.”
No Catholic here has ever defended “the same kind of behavior”. What we do is assume there will always be some corruption because human beings are corrupt. Concupiscence makes it so.
In other words, we deal with reality but Protestant anti-Catholics dwelling in their obsessiveness often pretend that corruption is only a Catholic issue or think that they are somehow doing something good or important by pointing out that there have been corrupt Catholic people when everyone already knows that.
It is a sign of obsession to repeatedly point out something that in itself doesn’t mean what the anti-Catholic thinks it means. Corruption among Catholic people in no way changes the fact that Christ founded the Catholic Church since wherever you find people you find corruption. Thus, all someone does by obsessively pointing out corruption among Catholic people is make themselves look like like an obsessive person who is weirdly fascinated by posting lists of people they know nothing about from centuries and centuries ago who may or may not have been as corrupt as the anti-Catholic says. What good does that do? No Catholic here will say, “Wow, some pope who I never heard of a thousand years ago is said to be corrupt by some website on the internet I’ve never heard and cut and pasted by some obsessive anti-Catholic I know only too well - I guess that means that Jesus didn’t establish the Church.” That’s illogical to say the least.
So by all means continue to waste your time posting lists of long since dead people here that no one - including Catholics - ever think about, or even know about for that matter, because you’ll accomplish nothing but make yourself look obsessive about things no one here can go back in time and fix anyway. Enjoy wasting your time accomplishing nothing!