Posted on 11/28/2016 3:03:26 PM PST by NYer
If it exists, purgatory is full of printers in need of fixing.
An old boss of mine, real church going good guy said if there were printers in heaven, he’d just assume not go anywhere.
I despise printers so much.
Purgatory is considered a process that occurs IN paradise. You’re in heaven, off in a corner, because sinful heavy laden you needs a bit of spiritual spiffing up to meet God, Jesus, heavenly host, and the rest of the church victorious.
I do not know what time is or if it runs in the same way in the eternal light of heaven. Instantaneous? A thousand years? Maybe as long as it takes to get it right? Who knows.
They prayed for the dead in the Early Church and in Judism.
No I am not Catholic, but I am catholic.
because sinful heavy laden you needs a bit of spiritual spiffing up
Time?
Borrowing from a saints good works?
Payments made to the Catholic Church?
What exactly are you going to do in your corner of heaven to spiff you up.
It sounds good from a human perspective. Put the kid in the corner to think about what he did. NOT THE WAY GOD WORKS BUT IT SOUNDS GOOD, DOESN’T IT?
Exactly.
“Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.””
So no purgatory!!!”
Your comment is completely illogical. Who says the Good Thief needed to go to Purgatory?
What???
You are mistaken.
Paradise was not heaven. It was a waiting place for the good people of the Old (and New Testaments.)
Christ was the first person into heaven at his Ascension. All others had to wait, including the Good Thief.
How are we to know?
That’s exactly why we pray for the poor souls in Purgatory.
How are we to know?
That’s exactly why we pray for the poor souls in Purgatory.
Thanks for corroborating the thesis of the article.
**The refining moment takes place in Heaven.**
Not true. A souls must be perfecting clean to enter heaven.
The refining (or reparation that was not made on earth) takes place in Purgatory.
**Purgatory is considered a process that occurs IN paradise. You’re in heaven, off in a corner, because sinful heavy laden you needs a bit of spiritual spiffing up to meet God, Jesus, heavenly host, and the rest of the church victorious.**
That thesis is wrong.
Only pure souls can enter heaven. The souls that need to repair what they did not do on earth will do that in Purgatory until they are pure and clean.
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The rewards judging happens in Heaven, not in some mythical purgatory where the works based religion traps so many, too many.
I disagree and someday you will agree with me. Good night.
Have you ever read what JESUS told Nicodemus about the brass snake (John 3)? What, other than looking at the brass snake on the pole, did the Israelite have to do to be CURED of the poison? ... Sin is poison. Whether I agree with you or not is definitely NOT THE ISSUE you need to explore.
A little history might sharpen thinking on the nature of purgatory.
In the early church, the fear was that anyone who died unbaptized forfeited heaven. So wouldn’t infant baptism make sense? Sure. So, that’s what they did.
Then one of the princes of the church pointed out that sins committed in a state of grace, i.e., after being baptized, were much more serious than sins committed when unbaptized.
So, wouldn’t baptism delayed until sometime in adulthood lessen the burden on the heaven-bound soul? Sure, that makes sense. So they went for adult baptism.
Then one of the other princes of the church got thrown from his horse while out riding, and hit his head on a rock, killing him. In an unbaptized state. Ouch. This was getting ridiculous.
The answer was to go back to infant baptism and invent a part of afterlife that would purge the soul, or at least allow for the working off, of sins committed in the state of grace. Makes sense. So that must be how it works, yes.
Leave it up to the new guy to find biblical justification, or just make some up out of whole cloth. What could it hurt? Problem solved.
Why are you telling me what to think?
LOL, you can have the last word since it is so important to your ego ...
So the Blood of Jesus is insufficient for the cleansing of some souls?
People sin.
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