The Real Jesus of Scripture Might Surprise You

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 11-22-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “If it doesn’t line up with Scripture, it’s from the enemy.” <<

“Test the spirits...”
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[SubMareener]

So the Kingdom of Heaven is a grossly false teaching?

[Ezekiel]

"Everybody knows" that the Messiah won't look or act like that gentle, fair-complexioned fellow depicted in Western religious traditions since forever.

And "everybody knows" to believe in the trinity as well.

And "everybody knows" a lot of other stuff that nobody should dare question.

There will be many shocking surprises in the coming days. Nothing should be a shock though, especially with the benefit of the literal political parable that is unfolding right before our eyes.

Trump : the political Establishment :: Messiah : religious Establishment

Flipped over tables and seats. Sounds pretty rough and tumble, but no need to lay a hand. The Establishments will be turned upside down from the dead weight of the religiously correct doctrines in their heads.

The Messiah's kingdom is not of this world, so neither are his weapons and punishments.

One man's Lake of Fire is another man's refinery.

[RoosterRedux]

In this case, it is defined by how “ruddy” is defined in ancient Hebrew culture.

[WildHighlander57]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3497582/posts?page=19#19

—Very— interesting parallels!!

Right before the election, our pastor was teaching from 1 Samuel 9 & 10, where Israel was getting a new ruler...

[mumblypeg]

Good rant! No apology needed!

[MHGinTN]

Interesting post!

[MHGinTN]

You asserted, "I'll stick with the bishops of the universal church, whose teaching authority can be traced back to the apostles in an unbroken line."

That sentence has so many magic thoughts in it, I'm wondering if you are a TV magician! But then I recall that it is the foundation of catholiciism to conflate their religious institution with the EKKLESIA established and still alive by and in Christ.

[MHGinTN]

A few generations after the snake on the brass pole episode the Hebrews were making little statues of the remembered imagery. GOD had a certain King end that idolatry.

[Rashputin]

There are drawings of Christ on the cross and in other places with the Apostles at the Last Supper in the catacombs dated as having been drawn within the first few decades after Christ was crucified.

Therefore, the lame BS about Constantine inventing the Catholic Church or trash talk about how the Catholic Church is anything other than the One True Faith doesn't hold water because were they not Catholic, you assert that they wouldn't have made those drawings.

Thanks for agreeing that the only True Church is the Catholic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded.

[MHGinTN]

You are doing satan's work ... "were they not Catholic, you assert that they wouldn't have made those drawings." I have asserted no such thing, liar.

And then there is this [piece of demonic deception: "Thanks for agreeing that the only True Church is the Catholic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded." You keep trying to affirm your devilish namesake! Why do you persist in these lies?

[Rashputin]

ROTFLOL . . .

You're seeing your faults in others. Besides, your mother took a picture of you when you were a mere infant and in doing so stole your soul. What would you know about anything except Satan's work which you obviously ply here on a routine basis.

There's nothing more Satanic than denying the perfection of the Holy Spirit and therefore the Trinity which is exactly what the whole mob who throw a major portion of the OT in the garbage can do; they blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me, is against me : and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth.
Matthew 12:31 Therefore I say to you : Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Matthew 12:32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him : but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

Christ Himself warned you. You pay Him no heed.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"Yes, the OLD TESTAMENT."

Certainly, metmom! "The New Testament is concealed in the Old; the Old is revealed in the New."

"There is no order of priesthood assigned to or for believers in the NT ..."

Actually, there are two related, but not identical roles here: the "priesthood of all believers" (in which we all participate by Baptism ) and the "priesthood of Christ" in which our Bishops participate in a special way as direct successors of the Apostles, esp. in offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in persona Christi. E.g. when at the consecration the priest says, "This is My Body," he does not mean "This is the body of Fr. Pete Iorio" but "This is the Body of Christ."

1 Corinthians 12:29
Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers?Do all work mighty deeds?

"..and there is no instruction about dress."

That is true; and that is why, throughout the ages, priests in the Church were garbed, especially for Liturgy, in whatever in that culture/century would have corresponded their concept of noble dress. "Adore the Lord in holy attire..." (Psalm 96:9; Psalm 29:2)

Historians of art and historians of Liturgy will find a wonderful variety here, as priests conveyed by their dress that they were serving the King of Heaven:

Fr. Matteo Ricci in the Chinese imperial court, 1611

St. Andrew Kim, Korea, 19th century

Armenian Catholic priest, 19th century

The Evangelical pastors out my way ---- and they're in our Pro-Life Coalition, I love 'em --- tend to look like either football coaches or bank managers. :o)

I love 'em!

"Jesus is our great high priest and HE is all we need."

A Catholic priest has no priesthood other than the One Priesthood of Christ in which he shares. To say we do not need this earthly participation in the work of Salvation which is Christ's work, seems to lose sight of the truth of our participation --- in our various distinctive ways ---- in the Body of Christ.

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[MHGinTN]

Down on the floor throwing a fit seems to fit your style ...

[Rashputin]

Show tunes and the Gay Disco seem to fit your style . . .

Have a lovely little day

[MHGinTN]

Ah yes, the hallmark of catholiciism, that God needs help for your salvation, as if Jesus didn’t quite do enough so the priesthood must help Him get it done. Still striving to obtain salvation are you?

[MHGinTN]

You’ve been to the Homo bar in the Vatican then? I thought Benedict closed that sewer!

[Elsie]

Mary ascended to heaven - heretic christians deny the ultimate divinity of christ and the ascension of Mary so they don't take her image seriously.

HMMMmmm... your spellcheck substituted heretic for biblical.

[Elsie]

The Real Jesus of Scripture Might Surprise You

So would the REAL Mary!!

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All the Words of Mary...
...as recorded in the Bible.

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 ...To the angel
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” 
Mary answered. “May it be to me as you have said.”   (Luke 1:30-38)

 

 
...To Elizabeth
And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me—holy is his name. His mercy extends to those who fear him, from generation to generation. He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts. He has brought down rulers from their thrones but has lifted up the humble. He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty. He has helped his servant Israel, remembering to be merciful to Abraham and his descendants forever, even as he said to our fathers.” (Luke 1:46-55)

 

 ...To Jesus
His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.”  (Luke 2:48-50)

 

... at Cana
And when the wine gave out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.”
His mother said to the servants, “Whatever He says to you, do it” (John 2:3-5).

 

 

[Rashputin]

There ya' go, I knew you could do it. Down on the floor and throwing a fit, how enchanting of you.

I sure hope no Muzzie drops in and kills you and your boyfriend while you're dancing cheek to cheek.

Go on, keep up with the personal attacks and expect others to not respond in kind you Satanic imbecile.