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To: RummyChick

“Also why do you keep pretending that a Cardinal is on the same level as a Bishop.”

Show me where I “pretend” that. You will fail by the way.

“They aren’t on the same level.”

No one here is claiming they are. These cardinals in question, however, are BISHOPS. Covered in post #73. Nothing else you’re saying changes that.

“The Dean of the Cardinals is not the same thing as a lowly bishop in the US.”

They are both bishops. Covered in post #73.

“Btw, what about the Lavender Mafia. Are you going to claim it doesn’t exit?”

No. Why are your posts getting progressively more bizarre and ridiculous? Are you getting even more desperate perhaps? I was the one who posted about Fr. Rueda’s book.

“If it does exist, how does that square with Catholic teachings”

It squares with it as much as any other sinful activity - not at all. And that just leads us back to post #73. See, it’s not about politics. It’s about SIN.

“Furthermore, why should I have to list abuse after abuse after abuse..when as an expert historian you know all about them.”

There’s no “should” or “have to” when it comes to what you must post - other than your posts should and have to make sense and they don’t. You keep posting whines about how you are being forced to post this or that and no one is forcing you to do ANYTHING. What is with you?

“Your post makes it seem as if there is only one example.”

No. There you go again twisting what was posted. You - THAT’S YOU - posted about Sodan and ONE order in one post and I responded by telling you it was ONE order. That hasn’t changed. That post is about ONE order. And nothing in that post - OR IN ANY OTHER OF YOUR POSTS - changes anything I wrote in post #73. Everything I said there is still absolutely true and is not overturned by anything you have posted since.

“WHY didn’t you say ONE ORDER AMONG MANY”

Because the post was about ONE ORDER. ONE. Can you read that word? ONE. And whether one or ten it changes NOTHING I wrote. It’s all in post #73. You asked for it and I gave it to you and you have refused to actually deal with it in any detail ever since.

“instead of lording your expertise and thus trying to imply I didn’t name any others so there must not be any others.”

There you go again making things up. So seemingly desperate.

“A CARDINAL EVEN ACCUSED ANOTHER CARDINAL”

Bishops. Covered in post #73. Thanks for proving my point.

“To a layman, a Cardinal is higher level than a bishop so as you are excusing the Catholic Church you keep using the term bishop instead of what they are known as to try to obfuscate.”

Nope. My post #73 says it all just about. Cardinal or ordinary - they’re both bishops. And I am a layman so you’re wrong on your statement there. Also, anyone who reads post #73 could not POSSIBLY come away from that thinking I am “excusing” or “try[ing] to obfuscate” for anyone, anything or about anyone or anything. It’s just that simple.

“The use of the word CARDINAL gives it more gravitas.”

Oh, geez. Bishops. No cardinal has any more authroity in any diocese in the world than any oridanry does. That’s just a fact.

“I am not going down this rabbit hole any longer with you”

It’s not a hole. It’s a warren, a warren of your own creation. You dug it out all by yourself. Everything I posted has been true and accurate.

“THERE IS EVIL IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.”

There is evil in the hearts of men (Matthew 15:19).

“Sodano was EVIL. HE was a DEAN Of the CARDINALS. THAT IS A HIGH POWERED POSITION. HE BLOCKED ANOTHER CARDINAL FROM INVESTIGATING SEXUAL ABUSE.”

You’re talking about three bishops. Bishops. Covered in Post #73.

“IF YOU ARE A TRUE CATHOLIC..THE LAVENDER MAFIA SHOULD BE EVIL TO YOU. But you still haven’t acknowledged they exist.”

Have you really acknowledged post #73? Also, does my acknowledging an evil that is not mine change its status? I need not discuss every evil in the world - or any pet evil you seem bizarrely focused on - to do what is right.

“I am done with this”

Believe me you were done before this started.


125 posted on 11/16/2016 9:13:10 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Not all Cardinals are bishops and your refusal to address them as Cardinal and just saying Bishop would not go over well.


127 posted on 11/16/2016 9:20:50 AM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: vladimir998

You keep pretending all Cardinals are bishops and that is just not the case. ..and you know it as an historian


128 posted on 11/16/2016 9:22:09 AM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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