New Bergoglian Bishop from Buenos Aires-believes embryos are not life and approves of "gay ...

Vox Cantoris ^ | September 28, 2016 | Vox Cantoris

[ebb tide]

This is the newest Bergoglian Bishop.

Clearly, Redemptionis Sacramentum never made it to Argentina.

Fracto demum sacramento, ne vacilles, sed memento tantum esse sub fragmento, quantum toto tegitur. Nulla rei fit scissura: signi tantum fit fractura, qua nec status, nec statura signati minuitur.

Nor a single doubt retain, when they break the Host in twain, but that in each part remain what was in the whole before; For the outward sign alone may some change have undergone, while the Signified stays one, and the same forevermore.

From the Corpus Christi sequence, Lauda Sion by St. Thomas Aquinas; but what did he know when you have men such as Miñarro who know better.

"The Holy Father has appointed Fr. Oscar Eduardo Miñarro as auxiliary bishop of Merlo-Moreno (area 301, population 1,051,000, Catholics 861,820, priests 59, permanent deacons 30, religious 198), Argentina. The bishop-elect was born in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 1960 and was ordained a priest in 1995. He studied in the major seminary of Morón. He has served in a number of pastoral roles, including parish vicar, parish priest, dean, member of the diocesan pastoral council, member of the presbyteral council and the college of consultors, legal representative of various colleges and head of seminarians in the diocese. He is currently vicar general of the diocese of Merlo-Moreno and parish priest of Nuestra Señora de la Merced."

We are fortunate, in Canada, that most of our bishops, were renewed under Benedict XVI. Source, in Spanish: http://infocatolica.com/blog/caritas.php/1609260644-133-oscar-chino-minarro-nuevo

"... With the theme of the embryos, you're in a philosophical issue, not purely scientific. I think if we ask the question of when an embryo has life, are in a philosophical issue. What we can ask is that in philosophy there is no absolute truth. That what there are questions that generate different responses and that all can be acceptable to the extent that justify it . But who can say whether the embryo is alive or not? I think that neither religious nor scientific, it is a very complex thing. "

AND

"... Yes, I am in favor. Also, if I say that equal marriage is enacted, it will cease to exist by that? No, it will be the same. So if there is a situation, I have not favor that this situation is dignity for the people who are living? What favor greater integration in society? And I, as a church, I can not do also feel that God is with that situation?

(Mgr.) He opposes Arancedo saying that marriage should be between two different sexes by natural complementarity of man and woman ... If he makes a philosophical approach is understandable from the philosophical. I can agree or disagree, but if I put myself in the same rigid position'm being like him. The risk of these discussions is intolerance in general. I blame Arancedo intolerant and full of epithets descalificativos showing my intolerance. In those things not business: if I am tolerant I am tolerant, and if not, not. It is a different, thought justified. I do not accept it is that thought is imposed for all.

In that sense we could say that progress is being made in degrees of tolerance because, for example, recognizes the right to marry to same-sex ... "

AND

- "Review of lifestyles that separate the priests of the village, including work clothes, mandatory celibacy, house, poverty ...worship...

- Review of the liturgy to achieve creative inculturation that allows the people, particularly the poor, the experience as their own language to approach God;

-Review Which mainly calls to priests, recalling that the centrality must be placed in the kingdom and evangelization rather than worship...

-Review Of all spirituality that is not a real walk in the Spirit but platonic evasion and bring to put one ear in the Gospel and an ear in the heart of the people ".

#OscarEduardoMiñarro

[ebb tide]

Full title:

Look at Oscar Eduardo Miñarro - a new Bergoglian Bishop from Buenos Aires - believes embryos are not life and approves of "gay marriage!"

[Buckeye McFrog]

A Bishop who does not believe in Absolute Truth.
Swell.

[ebb tide]

Bergoglian Bishop, Oscar Eduardo Minarro

[DarthVader]

Heretic

[pepsi_junkie]

I was raised a catholic. I don't say "I go to a catholic church" or "I'm a member of the roman catholic church". I say I am a Catholic. It's part of my identity. The Church has always been far from perfect but it was MY Church and I would stick with it come what may. Not blindly, certainly, where it needed to do better I would raise my voice but from within the Church. Always within.

It was pretty easy under John Paul II, frankly. But these leftists who have now taken over the church are breaking me. I feel like the leadership doesn't have any faith, that it's all about politics to them. And it leaves me feeling adrift.

[Albion Wilde]

This idiot thinks that turkey-baster children deprived of natural parents are OK.

[miss marmelstein]

He’s simply not a Catholic. That is not Catholic teaching, it’s pure heresy.

[MHGinTN]

Signs of the end times are accumulating ... up is down, black is white, wrong is right, evil is good.

[orchestra]

Marxists are everywhere!

[Buckeye McFrog]

What scares me is that I truly believe that economics are driving them to the Left.

The average active Catholic who attends Mass regularly and financially supports his Church is over 50. Millenials have pretty much stopped going. For every baptism there are ten funerals.

The panic over shrinking collections is palpable.

I have seen some panicky things in my Church’s bulletin about the need to lure young people back to the Church. And while I don’t disagree, there is a right way and a wrong way to do that.

My fear is that they are going to choose the wrong way. Like caving to the Millenial belief that not giving gays everything they demand is analogous to bullying.

[vinny29]

He is a CINO-Catholic in name only-

[TexasFreeper2009]

so.. embryo’s are not life... so... if we found a martian embryo on mars... the headlines wouldn’t be screaming

Life Found on Mars!

?

[opus1]

Of all the poppycock I’ve heard from priests for many decades, this statement about ‘embryos’ is the most unsettling. We’ve all heard priests who are soft on abortion because they sympathize with the plight of an unwed mother. But never have I heard a priest actually declare an ‘embryo’ is not human, nor perhaps even alive! That defining life is not a biological question, but purely a philosophical one!

I really cannot take this on face value, it’s too incredible and unprecedented. Where is the source for this quotation? What was the context, the year, was it an interview or what? Was he bishop or priest at the time? Could there be a translation problem? Or incorrect reporting? It does appear to be out of context of a larger discourse?

This is unlike anything yet out of the Bergoglio reign. The Church is almost fully secularized, but I’ve never heard this line of reasoning. To follow it is to lose the dogma of Transubstantiation! So, that’s why I’m wondering about the source, not to cast doubt on your post.

[miss marmelstein]

Indeed, there are. And if they think I’m going to give up my religion - as lousy as I am at it - and go to some other faith, they’ve got another think coming. I was educated enough to know that there are bad people in this world but that The Father, Son and Holy Ghost go on. May heretics look to their own souls, as I look to mine.

[pepsi_junkie]

The average active Catholic who attends Mass regularly and financially supports his Church is over 50. Millenials have pretty much stopped going. For every baptism there are ten funerals.

The further left the church lurches and the more it states that it offers no universal truths and the ephemeral politics of the moment drive it, the fewer people see the point in being part of it. Go figure.

[orchestra]

- as lousy as I am at it -

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Fortunately, we have a strong Redeemer- an Advocate who sits at the right hand of The Father Almighty! How can we fail when we are robed with the robe His righteousness? Our vicarious victory through His absolute victory over sin and death.

[miss marmelstein]

Thank you for those beautiful words.

In any case, I will hold strong to my religion unlike someone like Sean Hannity who is always hinting that he will go to some other religion because we have bad priests and a noxious Pope! As if all religions don’t vomit up bad people. Another badly educated Catholic.

[Sgt_Schultze]

So to be clear, for over 2,000 years, the morons before him were truly rubes. So can I take communion today if I sinned grievously and haven’t repented? What about divorce - can they come back to the Church and remarry? How could those rubes be right about anything?

[ebb tide]

Here’s the link, which was included in the article if you had opened it.

http://infocatolica.com/blog/caritas.php/1609260644-133-oscar-chino-minarro-nuevo

The publishing date of the article was 9/26/2016. And the Bergolio bishop was appointed bishop on 9/19/2016 and he’ll be ordained as such on 12/03/16.

[miss marmelstein]

Yup. As much as we loathe and despise islam it offers simple ‘truths’ and concrete actions (no alcohol, no pork, prayers on Friday). Of course it also offers chaos and murder every other day of the week which is why American prisoners and teenager boys love it.