Posted on 09/21/2016 4:50:56 PM PDT by marshmallow
Alexandria, La., Sep 21, 2016 / 11:46 am (CNA/EWTN News).- The Vatican announced Wednesday that Pope Francis has appointed Bishop David Prescott Talley, currently auxiliary bishop of Atlanta and a former Baptist, to serve as the coadjutor bishop of the Diocese of Alexandria.
As coadjutor, Bishop Talley possesses the right of succession as head of the Diocese of Alexandria upon the resignation of its current ordinary, Bishop Ronald Herzog. Bishop Herzog will celebrate his 75th birthday – 'mandatory retirement' age for bishops – on April 22, 2017.
Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta said Sept. 21 that Bishop Talley “is a servant minister of our Church, who is graced with extraordinary wisdom, patience, kindness and dedication.”
The bishop, he said, “developed these gifts as a priest and bishop here in the Archdiocese of Atlanta, where he always cared for our people as a true minister of mercy and kindness. Thus, he now begins this new appointment with exceptional credentials.”
Serving as an auxiliary bishop in the Archdiocese of Atlanta since 2012, Bishop Talley, 66, was the first native-born Georgian to serve the Archdiocese of Atlanta as a bishop.
Born in Columbus, Georgia, Sept. 11, 1950, he was raised as a Southern Baptist, but left that ecclesial community as a teenager over the issue of racial segregation, he said. He then joined the Catholic Church when he was 24, after meeting Catholics and reading the writings of Thomas Merton while he was studying at Auburn University.
He was ordained a priest of the Atlanta archdiocese June 3, 1989, and earned a doctorate in canon law from the Pontifical Gregorian University. He has served as pastor at three Atlanta area parishes, as the archdiocesan vocations director, as chancellor of the archdiocese, and as judicial vicar of the metropolitan tribunal. He was made a........
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Well, it does seem that certain RCs are compelled to promote their church due to it being their object of primary earthly devotion and security. That in itself is an argument against them, as is invoking apostate former S. Baptist (and likely social liberal*). Meanwhile, the church did not overall begin with Jewish or pagan leadership converting, but with the common people:
Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him? The officers answered, Never man spake like this man. Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived? Have any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed on him? But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed. (John 7:45-49)
David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly. (Mark 12:37)
And it is these who leave Rome to find better pasture in evangelical churches, far more than those who cross the Tiber the opposite direction.
Those who have left Catholicism outnumber those who have joined the Catholic Church by nearly a four-to-one margin. 10.1% have left the Catholic Church after having been raised Catholic, while only 2.6% of adults have become Catholic after having been raised in a different faith.
80% of adults who were raised Protestant are still Protestant, but (analysis shows) 25% no longer self-identify with the Protestant denomination in which they were raised.
Over 75% of those who left Catholicism attended Mass at least once a week as children, versus 86% having done so who remain Catholics today.^
71% of converts from Catholicism to Protestant faith said that their spiritual needs were not being met in Catholicism, with 78% of Evangelical Protestants in particular concurring, versus 43% of those now unaffiliated.
Only 23% (20% now evangelical) of all Protestants converts from Catholicism said they were unhappy about Catholicism's teachings on abortion/homosexuality (versus 46% of those now unaffiliated); 23% also expressed disagreement with teaching on divorce/remarriage; 16% (12% now evangelical) were dissatisfied with teachings on birth control, 70% said they found a religion the liked more in Protestantism.
55% of evangelical converts from Catholicism cited dissatisfaction with Catholic teachings about the Bible was a reason for leaving Catholicism, with 46% saying the Catholic Church did not view the Bible literally enough. - Pew forum, Faith in Flux (April 27, 2009) http://pewforum.org/uploadedfiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/fullreport.pdf
*David P. Talley recommends the trilogy of books by Taylor Branch, who uses Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the whole community of the civil rights movement as a lens…and a door…to an invitation…to live the promises given to us. - http://www.patheos.com/blogs/catholicbookblogger/2015/04/27/the-clergy-speaks-auxiliary-bishop-david-p-talley/
And we’re seeing the birth pangs of that.
Physician, heal thyself.
Hey, Catholics don’t have to worry about divorce.
They can get out of any marriage they want by getting a church approved breaking of the marriage vows known as an annulment.
That which we call a rose by any other name.
It’s still a divorce. It’s just church sponsored and approved.
Besides, I've noticed you're one of the first to run to the RM to try to have a thread pulled or stopped when the heat gets to much for roman catholicism.
How sad ... but he has been well kept by that Institution.
By your definition, it is still inflammatory. That would preclude any former Catholic from referencing the fact that they were baptized in a Catholic church and then made a different choice.
... people like you ...
oops, that slipped out
The bishop didn't choose those words (and I venture the intelligent guess he would never THINK of referring to himself as a former Baptist, just as I never refer to myself as a former Catholic)
Mindreading; the fact is he is a former Baptist and chose to become Catholic. The fact is not inflammatory, except in the same sense that Moslems are inflamed when a someone leaves their religion and chooses something else. They take it to an extreme.
I met Jesus at Eddie Klein’s kitchen table, about 7:30 PM, up Fallen Timber Rd in WV, Aug 15, 1981.
You just can't stand it that someone might reject your religion and you take it personally as if it is a rejection of you .... nay, rather ... a personal affront, like a slap in the face or the first punch
Part of this organized chaos is the highlighting of the community of believers (aka the church) and the work of God among it.
I am skeptical that we will get away with only one cataclysm, except inasmuch as the scriptural prediction puts a hard limit on something.
Good days, not just bad ones, are necessary in this plan. If we are on the verge of better days, we should thank the Lord for it. If this whole generation believed, that wouldn’t mean anything for the next. Israel’s repentances typically fell away as fast as the following generation.
If some fatal fault can be found with the union going into it. That limits it in principle.
I’d have a bigger issue with the fact that the scripture never tells us about anything like an “annulment.”
One needs a separate “special KJV” argument here. That is a whole ‘nother ball of wax.
Institutionism is a temptation that all denominations see. It existed as early as Paul’s day, with people saying “I am of [whoever].” Even in some cases Jesus, yet it looks like this would have to mean Jesus viewed in a worldly, cult-leaderish manner, a role He never purposed to assert any more than He permitted Himself to be made earthly king in Israel in New Testament times.
The more I experience of the actual Lord and the more I read of experiences like that of C. S. Lewis, the less I am stuck on the model of One “Absolutely Right” Piece Of The Church.
Protestantism has its own high profile hangups — the handling of the paradox between promise and choice just one chief example among them, giving us sadly artificial camps of Arminian and Calvinist. (I kid people that I am Calminian.)
And progressing past this model is going to be absolutely necessary if we want to see better expression of the Lord in Christendom as a whole. We might never pull the Pope on board an effort to do this, but does he have to be? There might not even be another pope, if some Roman Catholic prophecies are on point.
Actually this thread is about a Baptist who chose to be Catholic, not vice versa. One could make the argument once Baptist, always Baptist and people could debate it without being inflamed.
You just can't stand it that someone might reject your religion and you take it personally as if it is a rejection of you .... nay, rather ... a personal affront, like a slap in the face or the first punch
It seems to me this kind of projection is often indicative of a declarer's own emotional struggle in the face of spiritual struggle or trauma. I'm standing and desire no violence against Catholics or Baptists. Let the words of the Messah dwell richly in you and prompt you to good works as He taught.
It sort of amazes me when I follow these threads that people fail to see the bigger picture...
If you are a follower of Christ and have faith in his offer of salvation.... you are a Christian...
Everything else is wood hay and stubble that will burn away at His coming...
I doubt our Lord will ask what church you went to...
It is well with my soul
I live in peace
Actually, according to the Bible, the wood, hay, and stubble will burn away at the Bema Seat of Christ, in Heaven. Before that event, in Heaven, all believers since Jesus walked the earth will be snatched away, to be with Jesus in Heaven ... then return with HIM to remake the planet.
PILPUL ... CASUISTRY
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