“Sorry for the delayed response. Such is the life of a truck driver that still lives offline when away from home.”
I understand.
“As I said, He showed the example while he lived the mortal life, by praying to God only. Since he is filled with God, and given all power by the Father since his resurrection, we can pray to him.”
And to the Father, and to the Holy Spirit, and to the Saints.
**That’s not an example of any misunderstanding of scripture on MY part. Tell me the verse I am misunderstanding. List it.**
“You and your likeminded fellows use passages, such as Mary stepping in, to make it known to Jesus, that the wedding had run out of wine, as though she is to forever be a mediator between the mortals and God.”
As expected, you failed to post a verse that I am actually misunderstanding. As I said, “Tell me the verse I am misunderstanding. List it.” Can you do it or not?
“The story of Bathsheba being mediator is used as well, even though it turned out really bad for the man making the request.”
As I said, “Tell me the verse I am misunderstanding. List it.” Can you do it or not?
**There is no number attached to the Mass. Christ wanted it done; we do it.**
“Does your organization not stress that it is for eternal life?”
What is “it’? I don’t know what you’re referring to since the antecedent would be “your organization”.
“Yet it is not mentioned in DETAIL in the book of Acts, where conversions were the norm; and only a couple of times in detail in all of the epistles, which were sent to possibly a dozen different locations.”
And no where in the Bible is sola scriptura mentioned and when sola fide is mentioned it is clearly a condemnation. So what’s your point? John 6, and the gospels clearly point to the Mass. Is Jesus saying it not enough suddenly?
“The apostles knew that repentance, baptism in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and being filled with the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead would literally put “Christ in you, the hope of glory”.”
And none of that negates the “breaking of bread”.
“Scriptural phrase: God the Father. not: the Father of God”
Who is using “Father of God”? You’re literally making something up that no one is saying.
“Scriptural phrase: the Son of God. not: God the Son”
Jesus is God. Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus is, therefore, God the Son.
“Scriptural phrase: the Spirit of God. not: God the Holy Spirit (Ghost)”
The Holy Spirit is God. The Holy Spirit is, therefore, God the Holy Spirit.
“The Father is not OF God, the Father IS God. John 4:23,24”
No one is saying the Father is OF God. Your problem is with understanding English.
“The Son is OF God, and testified of it often. One of my favorite references:”
All three Divine Persons are God. It’s just that simple.
“I have other references to add, but have outdoor chores to get done. Have a good day!”
I will. I hope you do too. It’s a shame that your lack of knowledge about English is actually interfering with your knowledge of God. Work on that.
**“Tell me the verse I am misunderstanding. List it.”**
I guess the location of two of the favorite stories RCs use in their mediator tradition; Bathsheba’s request of Solomon (1Kings 2:13-25), and Mary’s request of Jesus (John 2:1-11), wasn’t familiar enough for you?
**and to the Saints.**
James 5:16 says ..pray ye one for another..”.
Anyone that has been born of the Spirit is a saint. But, there is no scripture to support praying to anyone that has died, except to the ONE that has risen, and has ALL power GIVEN unto him.
**What is “it’? I don’t know what you’re referring to since the antecedent would be “your organization”.**
Nice legal dodge. You surely knew that I was referring to the ‘mass’.
**So what’s your point? John 6, and the gospels clearly point to the Mass. Is Jesus saying it not enough suddenly?**
His disciples,..you know the ones that had their understanding opened, so that they would understand the scriptures, and were told the the Holy Ghost would lead and guide them into all truth, hardly mention the last supper in Acts (2:42). And that is where conversions are plentiful, and the details of conversions mentioned several times.
More on that later, as I’m really cutting into my bedtime.
I said: “The Father is not OF God, the Father IS God. John 4:23,24”
You said: **No one is saying the Father is OF God. Your problem is with understanding English.**
You also said: **Who is using “Father of God”? You’re literally making something up that no one is saying.**
Who is using the phrase ‘God the Son’?.....certainly not the Son of God or his apostles, as the scriptures give witness.
The challenge for you is to prove that the Son of God had/has any one divine attribute, that he did NOT receive from the Father that dwells in him continually.
I should be able to reply tomorrow eve, as I’m only driving local tomorrow. Peace.