Posted on 08/28/2016 2:41:41 PM PDT by Salvation
You say this like it's a bad thing...
Sadly; the emphasis on the OUTER man is WAY too great!
There ARE other alternatives you know.
I dunno, still working some things out...
HE'll wait!
Jeremiah 29:13
Oh; the ravens will bring us food for a while; but then...
Your comment: “Perhaps the very root of the difference in the religion known as catholiciism, and real Christianity.”
The Catholic Church has been here for 2000 years and the other christian church left the Catholic Church over doctrine or split off from the other protestant churches, some 30,000+ different churches.
We know from elsewhere in Scripture Jesus clearly intends his church to be visible with a hierarchical structure. Take for example Matthew 16:18-19: Jesus promises to make Peter the rock upon which he will build his church, which indicates Jesus intention for Peter to be the visible foundation for the Church of Christ on Eartha visible marker that identifies Jesus true church. Wherever the foundation is, there is the true church.
Jesus also gives Peter the keys of the kingdom (Matt. 16:19). In the Jewish tradition, the image of the keys signifies a governing role in the Davidic kingdom known as the royal steward (see Isa. 22:15-22). If Peter is a governor, then there must be a society to govern. Sounds like a visible and hierarchical church to me.
In another passage in Matthew, Jesus makes it clear the church, and not the individual, is the final court of appeal when it comes to settling disputes among Christians:
If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven (Matt. 18:15-18).
If Jesus doesnt intend for there to be a visible and hierarchical governing body of officials, and the church were merely an invisible community of believers, then what sense can be made of him saying, Take it to the church? Furthermore, since Gentiles and tax collectors were considered outcasts, Jesus use of these terms for those that disobey the church signifies visible boundaries for church membership.
You seem to select certain passages that do not address the issue and without fully understanding the whole story. The post states fallible opinion which addresses the spiritual needs of the individual to accept the spirit and not the flesh. It doesn’t support an invisible church.
Jesus established one church, the Catholic Church, and constituted it as visible and hierarchical. And because he desires all men to become members of that church, he works in the lives of those outside the Churchs visible boundaries in order to draw them into the unity his Church possesses.
The rest of the story....
http://www.catholic.com/blog/karlo-broussard/does-being-catholic-matter
Why dont you attend a local church and find out some things about GOD?
:) I think faith is made stronger by interacting with believers.
At a time in my life when I was lost and headed down a dark road, I walked into a church and joined a catholic young adults group.
What a great bunch. Real Christians. I wish more of it had stuck!!
Go where you find whores and tax collectors.
You might bump into Jesus there!
Then Rome's church is just the one for you!
It has more of this than ANYONE else!
And COFFEE; too!
ALL types of ‘sports’ have stolen our time away.
And... multitasking.
We are just too DAMNED busy! these days!
Good post.
AMEN! I'm lifted when I see ANYONE say grace in a public venue!
Once bitten;
Twice shy.
This will ALWAYS be true!
I believe the Jews (too whom it was given) still follow this.
Romans 14 King James Version (KJV)
1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Try to get your mind off of spin cycle; JESUS did not establish an institution, which is what the Catholic Church is, regardless of your spinning and conflation.
God doesn't want you to be Catholic or Baptist or Methodist, etc. He wants to bring you into HIS BODY of BELIEVERS who are born from above and walk according to the faith HE generates in you via HIS SPIRIT in you. Your institution will drop you in Hell in your last heartbeat. The Spirit of God in you will never let that happen:
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Strange...
A search did NOT find this quoted statement.
It did; however; return many like this:
"Remember the Sabbath day,"
Whose has convinced 'young professionals' to be gonadally challenged?
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