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Judging non-Catholics
OSV.com ^ | 08-17-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 08/20/2016 7:45:03 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: ADSUM
I disagree with your analysis. And you disagree with a principal Catholic doctrine that has passed down through the Catholic faith that was established by Jesus Christ. So I accept the words of Jesus and not your comments.

Which is more or mere argument by question-begging assertion, which is the very things that was refuted, and remains so despite your cultic, self-comforting soliloquy.

641 posted on 08/24/2016 4:20:56 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: WrightWings
But you had no problem castigating me over a post that wasn't directed at *you*...

That's what we do on FR.

Point out things that might have been missed while looking in the mirror.


#149. Please show me the Official Catholic teaching for this. Or are you projecting *your* beliefs as those of the Roman Catholic Church? (You probably shouldn't answer, as you'll only make a fool of yourself)

642 posted on 08/24/2016 4:36:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

They weren’t refuted.

Just your rambling opinion.


643 posted on 08/24/2016 4:38:01 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: daniel1212
Indeed, as there is no contention that this was addressed to believers, but who can fall away, (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; 10:38) and only location condition of any unfaithful servant is with the lost, with the latter two dealing with the degree of punishment. It is up to you to prove that this refers to purgatory. Just accept that this text does not teach that.

Neither is the word believers in the text. This is about servants, friends, and a flock. It is up to me to believe His teaching and obey it. The teaching clearly admits different levels of reward and punishment among His servants and friends. The Apostle Peter proceeds to admit us into the room, as it were, with his question. Proof texts are not the issue; after all these centuries there should be no divisions if proof texts were the solution. Obedience is the issue; this is something each one of us must do; may we have a perpetual fear and love of His Holy Name.

644 posted on 08/24/2016 4:40:53 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: amihow; teppe; Normandy; StormPrepper
But the FULLNESS OF THE TRUTH. is found only in the RCC.

This is as an inaccurate a statement as the one that the SLC brand of MormonISM makes - found on this plaque in Temple Square:


 

 

 

645 posted on 08/24/2016 4:43:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CraigEsq
This IS a fine kettle of fish!
646 posted on 08/24/2016 4:44:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
All I need to do is believe and obey everything the Messiah said according to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church to the best of my understanding.
647 posted on 08/24/2016 4:45:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: amihow
If arrogance or pride or ignorance or inability to grasp or pure evil, whatever, God will judge.

HMMMmmm...

You seem to have left out COMMON SENSE in your list.

648 posted on 08/24/2016 4:47:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

And an echo still ripples later on...


649 posted on 08/24/2016 4:50:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arrian
Please read my original post.

What post?

All I see are your current tagline repeated over and over.

650 posted on 08/24/2016 4:51:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Verses 28 and 29?


651 posted on 08/24/2016 4:52:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: amihow
There are only the ecumenical councils which teachings on faith and morals ratified by Pope and two Ex Cathedra statements which constitute infallible teachings.

"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215


Lots of misunderstandings on FR.


There is a lot of understanding; too!



652 posted on 08/24/2016 4:54:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
They weren’t refuted. Just your rambling opinion.

What is the way God has prepared for man to be saved?

Secondly, is there are way for a non-Catholic sinner to know that he or she has been permanently reconciled to God that does not entail joining only the Roman Catholic church and giving alms to it?

Sincere questions for you or any Catholic reading this thread.

R2z
653 posted on 08/24/2016 4:54:28 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: amihow
Your Old Testament quotes have no bearing.

I'll bet you'd NOT say this to Jesus!!

Or His mom; either!!

654 posted on 08/24/2016 4:56:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
A miraculous change occurs ...

No; it does not.

All the hoping, wishing and incorrect teaching will never change this fact.

655 posted on 08/24/2016 4:57:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
And you disagree with a principal Catholic doctrine that has passed down through the Catholic faith that was established by Jesus Christ.

You guys keep saying this; and yet are SILENT on the FACT; that if this WERE true; then you've got some 'splaining to do Lucy; about the seven FAILED Catholic churches in Asia that the angel told John to write to.



656 posted on 08/24/2016 4:59:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Without Magic Thinking, Rome would have no power.


657 posted on 08/24/2016 5:01:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: wardaddy
I applaud muscular Catholicism....,they kept Islam at bay and preserved traditions and knowledge and history....hat tip for that

"Who else WAS there?" as they are wont to say over and over again.

They'd best be putting on their big boy pants once again; instead of going around sniffing the Koran.

(Did that last statement please those that say we was NOT kissing it?)

658 posted on 08/24/2016 5:02:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

Why don’t you run and hide under the mods skirt, I’ll call a waaambulance for you.


659 posted on 08/24/2016 5:03:15 AM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: daniel1212
TMS!!!!


Too many sillybulls!



660 posted on 08/24/2016 5:03:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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