Posted on 07/23/2016 9:19:23 AM PDT by Salvation
Eucharist in the creed?
Msgr. Charles Pope
Question: The true presence of Christ in the Eucharist is central to our Catholic faith, and many converts say it was essential to their conversion. If this is so, why is the true presence not mentioned at all in the Nicene or Apostles Creeds? Should it not be added at the end where we state things like our belief in the Communion of Saints, the resurrection of the body and so forth? — Jerry Roventini, via email
Answer: There are many things that are not mentioned in the Nicene Creed. There is no mention of the Ten Commandments or grace; neither are we told what books belong to the New Testament or that we should care for the poor, etc. The creed is not a catechism; it is a statement of certain key doctrines that were disputed at the time of its composition in the fourth century.
The creed was composed in response to debates about the divinity of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. While there are a few concluding statements related to ecclesiology and eschatology, the Nicene Creed remains preeminently a statement of faith in the one God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The belief in the true presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist was not widely disputed at the time. And to the degree it was, the need to definitively teach on the divinity of Christ was an important foundation in order to establish his true presence in the Eucharist.
In the Sacred Liturgy, many signs and words indicate the Real Presence. The words of the consecration, which are Jesus’ own words, say, “This is my body … my blood.” The priest later says, “Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.” There are also signs of the Real Presence in our reverence of kneeling and genuflecting. And, as Communion is distributed, there is the simple creedal declaration and response: “The body of Christ. Amen.” Therefore, in the wider liturgy of the Mass and devotions such as adoration, the Church proclaims her belief in the True Presence.
While it would not intrinsically hurt to add to the Nicene Creed, one might wonder where it would stop. Further, since the creed is shared by the Catholic and Orthodox Churches, adding to the ancient creed might harm attempts at unity.
Pope Paul VI wrote a longer “Credo of the People of God” which does speak to the Eucharistic presence, but it is too long to recite at Mass.
Unlearned....says ???you???...your question is so inane as to be unanswerable.
The first Mass was said at the last supper...
any other questions???
see why the Prottys don't get it???....pathetic.
Childish question and it dates back to before I was in grade school...in the 1940's.
I'm from Wisconsin, 4 of my uncles were dairy farmers with beef cattle....the red stuff that you see in your steak is BLOOD...call it what you will, it is BLOOD.
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“Whenever you eat the barley loaf and drink the wine, do it in remembrance of me.”
That is all there is to “get.”
No pagan sun god cookie, no pagan beads, nor “much saying.”
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“Whenever you eat the barley loaf and drink the wine, do it in remembrance of me.”
That is all there is to “get.”
No pagan sun god cookie, no pagan beads, nor “much saying.”
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Do a little research for a change. Here, I'll get you started:
LOL, eat your heart out bro, I disagree. That's NOT the way it is.
You can eat dinuguan if you want bro, but I won't do it.
They display on my IPhone 6.
Don’t have time to study what God has revealed to us in His word about Himself?
Is that a sad indictment of someone’s spiritual state or what?
I can’t not afford to be in God’s word every day. When I’m not, I can really tell by how I do spiritually.
Oh, a couple million or so, at least.
Facts don't seem to have any sway with those whose minds are made up.
Just like the pathetic *Luther removed books from the Bible* argument, which has been debunked more times than this topic and hasn't stopped anyone yet.
It's too much fun to malign the opposition rather than admitting they made a mistake.
Another untruth debunked.
But save it for future reference.
You’re gonna need it.
I hope you have a word document somewhere with the info so you can copy and paste it every time you need to drag it out again.
So the BIBLE uses childish arguments now?
Who knew?
Answer it.
tc:That is a childish answer, like saying that God cannot create a rock that is too heavy for Him to lift.....
So telling you what God has revealed to us about Himself in the Bible that Catholics claim their church wrote is a "childish answer"?????
If it's a childish answer, YOUR church is the one to blame for putting in the Bible in the first place.
So why would you belong to a church that gives childish answers?
What is childish is the default answer of *God can do anything He wants* in response to a question that has you backed into a corner that you can't get out of any other way.
Most reasonable folks would think that those who make the claim that 'the number changes by the hour' should be the one's that know the total!!!
Otherwise; they'll be just another ACCUSER that pulls 'data' from their...
...the place that a LOT of Catholic practices seem to come from: thin air.
A JEWISH messiah was talking to a room full of fellow JEWs about a JEWISH yearly meal of rememberance.
No text has EVER appeared where that JEWISH messiah ever said to eat that meal every time you darken a church's door!
Yeah...
Sure...
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