If you don't; well; it is STILL an excellent book!
Posted on 06/16/2016 9:22:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
Pope Francis, spiritual leader of a billion people, has just informed them that ‘the great majority’ of sacramental marriages are invalid because couples don’t go into them with the right intentions. He was speaking at a press conference in Rome. Here’s the context, from the Catholic News Agency (my emphases):
‘I heard a bishop say some months ago that he met a boy that had finished his university studies, and said “I want to become a priest, but only for 10 years”. It’s the culture of the provisional. And this happens everywhere, also in priestly life, in religious life,’ he said.
‘It’s provisional, and because of this the great majority of our sacramental marriages are null. Because they say “yes, for the rest of my life!” but they don’t know what they are saying. Because they have a different culture. They say it, they have good will, but they don’t know.’
Uh? You can read the full report here but you won’t be much the wiser. The Pope, thinking aloud in the manner of some maverick parish priest after a couple of glasses of wine at dinner, has just told millions of his flock that they are not really married.
Did he mean to say that? What does he really think? What authority do his words carry?
And why should Catholics even have to ask these questions? Francis’s off-the-cuff ramblings on matters of extreme pastoral sensitivity are wreaking havoc in the Catholic Church, as I’ve written here.
Ross Douthat of the New York Times has just tweeted this response:
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I suspect that even the Pope’s most liberal admirers will have difficulty extricating him from this mess.
Do you believe surrogate mothers commit a sin today? Is IVF morally acceptable?
That’s nice but that’s not good exegesis
It’s exactly what I mean, and I do know what I am saying to you. Your assumption that it is not humanly genetic is not only wrong but perhaps misleading to the reader.
Huh? Strikes me as a linguistic question, not an exegeticsal one.
The translators of the KJV are good enough for me, and so is Dr. Thomas Strouse, scholar of Hebrew and Greek who has done a very discerning paper on this. The Jews simply do not want you to pronounce this in their sanctimonious blindness. What makes you think that the choice of Adenoi was particular because of its vowel pronunciation which correctly belong to Yehovah? Cart and horse.
How is that to the point? The baby still has no genetic material from the surrogate.
I guess you are anti-Semitic ... I'm sticking with my Jewish teachers on this one. Your "authorities aren't nearly good enough for me!
When God created Adam, He did so from the 'dust of the ground'. Yet Adam was a human being. We believe Jesus is a Human Being now glorified in an altered body and in Heaven in that physical body. He seed remained within Him only leaving His physical body upon death, a death He allowed as the single, most efficacious sacrifice for us and for all those who will receive new life by His Grace, stretching all the way back to Adam and forward to our day. HIS SEED is the great clue we ought not miss in this discussion.
Your pope is in disagreement with the rcc. That’s who your issue is with.
Paul was writing to Galatian converts to Christianity, not to Jews who would naturally claim to be of the seed of Abraham.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in im: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel." [What or who is referred to as the 'seed' of satan?]
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Ya think that might be a possibility?
Tell ya what.
You stop with the speculatin'; and most of the circularity will cease as well.
I hope you are dropping something less tasty than bread crumbs to create a return trail during your desert wanderings.
How do YOU have a way of knowing what is implicit or not?
Rome's teaching.
The TEXT surely does NOT support Rome's position.
We CERTAINLY don't want any of THAT to be found on the pages of FR!
If you don't; well; it is STILL an excellent book!
John 6:63
The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing;
the words that I have spoken unto you, they are Spirit and they are life.
I hope you enjoy the BANNING that is being prepared for you!!
And; I have it from a good source; he had no belly button!
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