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Why Does Jesus Call the Father Greater If We Teach That the Members of the Trinity Are Equal?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-23-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 05/24/2016 6:49:46 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: goodwithagun

Your stumbling effort was actually the undistributed middle fallacy. ‘Now go ahead and complain to the mods, you know you will.’ (THAT was a passive aggressive phrasing.)


741 posted on 06/06/2016 8:11:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: terycarl; ealgeone; verga
Probably a poorly worded answer..but Verga and even I am subject to error. I called the Pope and ha assured me that I am not infallible.

Well HALLELUJAH! You're the FIRST Catholic to acknowledge that. Verga was given multiple chances to retract his poorly worded answer and he refused to do so. Here we are five hundred posts PAST his erroneous one and you are the first one of his peers to suggest it was wrong. Thank you. One would think that on a topic like this we could find much common ground and join together in defending the doctrine of the Trinity.

742 posted on 06/06/2016 8:35:15 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: metmom
There’s no indication of one, allegedly unified, corporate body of believers to which one must profess allegiance in order to be saved.

sure there is.

744 posted on 06/06/2016 8:42:50 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: boatbums
Gee...just like the Muslims! You don’t think people should have free will to decide such a thing??

Sure, and they do......just like the trans-gendered think they are a boy, or a girl....but in reality they aren't.

Everyone is certainly entitled to practice whatever "denomination" or religion that they prefer but you cannot "uncatholicize" yourself......just like divorce....you think that you're no longer married.........you are.

745 posted on 06/06/2016 8:51:15 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: boatbums

Verga left.I do not speak for them.
Harry Belafonte Jamaica Farewell 1958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaUo1QFCoHI


746 posted on 06/06/2016 8:55:49 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: terycarl; metmom; boatbums; knarf
Metmom was, and therefore still is, a Catholic....as are you. You cannot cease to be male or female (although some are trying) and you cannot cease to be Catholic.

I disagree bro. We can, and DO become ex Catholics. My parents forced me into doing something I didn't want any part of. When I was on my own, I beat feet. A lot of people have.

You may choose to practice some other "denomination" but your Catholic basis is still there...thankfully!

I disagree bro. Nothing is still there.
Some people may have to bluff their way into Heaven. I don't know if you will, but I KNOW I won't.

747 posted on 06/06/2016 9:01:28 PM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: terycarl; metmom; Mark17
Everyone is certainly entitled to practice whatever "denomination" or religion that they prefer but you cannot "uncatholicize" yourself......just like divorce....you think that you're no longer married.........you are.

Seriously? Your own church can declare your marriage is null after you divorce! So, you CAN be no longer married.

I didn't choose to be baptized as an infant into Roman Catholicism and when the Holy Spirit opened my eyes and heart to the gospel, I left that religion because I knew they had not taught me the truth of the gospel. There was no reason to stay. Instead, the Lord led me to a church home where I grew in my Christian faith and learned to walk with Christ coming to know Him and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death. I didn't leave Jesus, I left a false religion.

It's funny how on a thread discussing the basic doctrine of the Trinity and the many non-Catholic Christians who have joined in to defend it, you have to come here and side track the whole thing. Where were you when it would have helped further the discussion against a few who denied and/or questioned it? Are you capable of that or is bashing former Catholics all you can do?

748 posted on 06/06/2016 9:43:55 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Apparently not.

The parallel is stunning, isn’t it?


749 posted on 06/06/2016 11:49:25 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl
He was a baptized Christian and as far as I'm concerned, he remained one although seriously misled

As far as YOU are concerned.

And I doubt your opinion matters much to God.

It doesn't matter to me.

I am not a Catholic. Nor am I any other denomination.

When I was born from above, I did not become a Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist, Lutheran, whatever denominational label anyone chooses to attach.

I became a child of God by receiving Him, just as HE promised I would be.

John 1:10-13 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

And yes, it DOES change my inherent nature because I went from spiritually dead to spiritually alive.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

My spiritual identity is not a denominational label because I am a follower of Christ, not man.

My spiritual identity is Christ in me, the hope of glory.

750 posted on 06/07/2016 12:01:02 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl

Prove it.

Show the references from Scripture.

Your word is not enough since you admit that you are not infallible.

Since you, by your own admission are fallible, then you must provide outside sources to back up any truth claims you make for anyone to take you seriously.

Otherwise, it is just your unsupported opinion, which is as meaningless as anyone else’s unsupported opinion.


751 posted on 06/07/2016 12:03:36 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone
If you think these posts are upsetting you must not have seen the Trump/Cruz discussions. Those were brutal.

Did you ever see Civil War threads? Those were REALLY brutal.

752 posted on 06/07/2016 12:08:00 AM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: Mark17; terycarl; metmom; boatbums
So, terycarl .... you were born into a Catholic family and because of that, you are forevermore a Catholic ?

The most insidious form of rape

753 posted on 06/07/2016 2:33:41 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: terycarl
I called the Pope and ha assured me that I am not infallible.

But we ALL know that the pope might be wrong.

754 posted on 06/07/2016 4:25:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Nope, the Catholic church is a 2,016 year old institution instituted by Christ to profess His message.

And yet Mary was SO slighted in the early years, that she just HAD to make multiple appearances so that HER message could be proclaimed!

755 posted on 06/07/2016 4:27:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

One can reconstruct the missing by looking at the shadows it leaves behind...


756 posted on 06/07/2016 4:28:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
Your own church can declare your marriage is null after you divorce! So, you CAN be no longer married.

And; every once in a while; if it REALLY feels like it; the OTC can EXcommunicate one of it's members.

Yet they STILL are considered by some Catholics to STILL be a CAtholic?

HMMMmmm...

757 posted on 06/07/2016 4:32:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Your word is not enough since you admit that you are not infallible.

I thought the POPE said he wasn't!

But; since the pope CAN be wrong...

758 posted on 06/07/2016 4:33:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
One can reconstruct the missing by looking at the shadows it leaves behind...

Looks like tc and tm got the nasty post removal they were wishing for...

759 posted on 06/07/2016 4:47:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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