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Flames consume 150-year-old Manhattan church on its Orthodox worshippers’ Easter Sunday
WaPo ^ | 05-02-2016 | enny Starrs

Posted on 05/02/2016 7:17:37 AM PDT by NRx

Father Djokan Majstorovic tried to push closer and closer to his church, to no avail. The corner of Manhattan’s W. 25 St. and Broadway was cordoned off and swarming with firefighters.

“I feel like I’m in a nightmare right now,” Father Majstorovic said to the AP. Mere hours earlier on May 1, the Serbian Orthodox Cathedral of St. Sava had been packed with worshippers celebrating Easter Sunday. Now, the 150-year-old church is a smoldering, skeletal remain of its past self.

Just before 7 p.m., smoke could be seen creeping out of the historic church’s gray roof. Within an hour it was a raging blaze, with orange tongues licking the sky and flames shooting out of shattered stained-glass windows. The four-alarm fire brought in 170 firefighters from the New York Fire Department, and they still battled the fire for three hours before they knocked its main body back. Fire hoses were trained on the church’s carcass into the early morning hours.

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Lord have mercy!
1 posted on 05/02/2016 7:17:37 AM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

Serbians, gosh who would do something nasty to Serbians?


2 posted on 05/02/2016 7:19:26 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: NRx

One hundred fifty year old structure, packed with icons and old ornamentation, a priest walking round the altar swinging an incense burner, and maybe hundreds of people holding lit candles. What could possibly go wrong?


3 posted on 05/02/2016 7:27:10 AM PDT by katana
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To: NRx

I suppose the Enemedia won’t let us hear what the arson investigators discover...a fire that burns that hot and that huge without accelerants and multiple starting points is a tad suspicious...and Serbia is near Muslim strong holds you know those pesky Amish...
Freegards
LEX


4 posted on 05/02/2016 7:29:03 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: NRx

Although not included in the story I am linking to, it is said that when Notre Dame University suffered a catastrophic fire in 1879, that the founder, Fr. Sorin walked around the ruins and said to the assembled students and faculty that Mary must have wanted them to think bigger and that they must have given her a university that was too small. He then told them to show up the next morning to help start the rebuilding.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120507085725/http://archives.nd.edu/hope/hope13.htm/

Maybe St. Sava wants a bigger and better church to better serve and honor the Lord!


5 posted on 05/02/2016 7:30:39 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I was thinking of other causes besides arson, but then this morning brings news of the post-Easter burnings of two Orthodox churches in Australia. That, plus what you sad about the intensity of the NYC fire.


6 posted on 05/02/2016 7:34:59 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: NRx
This was originally an extension of Trinity Church IN YC and was a Christian Church.

IIRC, Trinity Church in NYC was miraculously saved from destruction on 9-11.

Sorry....I'm thinking Arson.

I think I read that there was another church burning someplace else in NYC at almost the same time.

7 posted on 05/02/2016 7:36:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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A more detailed story from the NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/nyregion/blaze-engulfs-historic-serbian-orthodox-church-in-manhattan.html?action=click&contentCollection=nyregion&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0

The parish website...
http://stsavanyc.org/


8 posted on 05/02/2016 7:38:41 AM PDT by NRx (It's sad when there is no one running for President that I can vote for with a clear conscience.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/four-alarm-fire-torches-brooklyn-buildings-church-article-1.2613082


9 posted on 05/02/2016 7:42:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: NRx

If this is not arson, it is the most incredible coincidence since OJ’s bloody glove.


10 posted on 05/02/2016 7:47:16 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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Whatever ... too much antiquity has been lost, IMO, since the muzzies came forefront to our attention in 2001

They've destroyed hundreds of thousands of years of man's labors, especially from the religious/spiritual world, all because "they didn't like it" ! ! !

I'm suspicious of this fire and the timing .... timing and symbolism is most important to the islamist.

11 posted on 05/02/2016 7:56:30 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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If this is not arson, it is the most incredible coincidence since OJ’s bloody glove.

Why wait for the services to be over before burning down the church? If I were Muslim (God forbid!) and carried hatred towards Serbian Christians, I would want them to burn in the church, not live on to rebuild the church.

12 posted on 05/02/2016 8:19:35 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: NRx

Haven’t the Serbs suffered enough? And does anyone doubt this was a Muslim hit?


13 posted on 05/02/2016 8:24:16 AM PDT by montag813
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I do, though I am not going to rule it out. It was an old church, with lots of highly combustible material, maybe old electrical wiring. There would have been many candles still burning after the Easter Liturgy. Church fires have happened before without foul play.

I am reserving judgement pending more information/evidence.


14 posted on 05/02/2016 8:31:03 AM PDT by NRx (It's sad when there is no one running for President that I can vote for with a clear conscience.)
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>I am reserving judgement pending more information/evidence

that is so un-FR


15 posted on 05/02/2016 8:40:31 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Sacajaweau
IIRC, Trinity Church in NYC was miraculously saved from destruction on 9-11.

More a matter of geography than a miracle.

16 posted on 05/02/2016 9:12:17 AM PDT by Roccus (Fighting POLITICIANS is the true WOT)
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The cause of the fire could be anything. The church where my wife works had a fire in the Vesting room a few years back. One of the parishioners thought that putting a small amount of burning incense into a window box filled with soil would be a safe way to dispose of it. a few hours later a small fire was discovered before it became out of control.

http://www.springsgov.com/units/fire/Safety/PottingSoilFires.htm

17 posted on 05/02/2016 9:40:00 AM PDT by lonerepubinma
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Same here, if I am not mistaken, there are more devotional candles in the Orthodox churches and it must have been packed that very day for the Orthodox Easter Sunday, so more candles had been used.

In my church, and I am Catholic, we have just one devotional candle light stand, but even on candle is enough to start a fire.

Saw a thread from one of the local tv stations of what that church looked like before the fire, with its very beautiful icon screen, sadly, all gone now.


18 posted on 05/02/2016 9:42:07 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Correction: One candle.


19 posted on 05/02/2016 9:53:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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"...if I am not mistaken, there are more devotional candles in the Orthodox churches and it must have been packed that very day for the Orthodox Easter Sunday, so more candles had been used."

An Orthodox church w/o candles is... not Orthodox.

http://www.thecultureconcept.com/circle/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Candle-glory.jpg
http://holyassumption.org/images/Candles-2.png
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/463177838-bulgarian-orthodox-church-celebrates-the-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZQHFRGiwAbYdkUKT4qtNqqqsDaHYlhTSeyLRERVv4xNt1VcCj1EA5QxHmlzI%2B4k9A%3D%3D
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/24/article-2298337-18E4FDCA000005DC-568_634x424.jpg
20 posted on 05/02/2016 10:15:07 AM PDT by NRx (It's sad when there is no one running for President that I can vote for with a clear conscience.)
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