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To: Steelfish

Show us where in Scripture the word eucharist is found and show us where Jesus says that if you don’t believe inthe eucharist, you don’t get to heaven.


85 posted on 04/09/2016 1:35:38 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; Steelfish; Salvation; Mercat; MHGinTN; Mark17; daniel1212
For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;

25nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own.

26Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,

28so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many,

will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him. Hebrews 9:24-28 NASB

This passage from Hebrews shows just how out of touch the roman catholic church is with what Christ has done for us.

It cannot be made any clearer that the re-sacrifice of Christ as the Victim in the Mass is not supported in any way through Scripture.

He has been sacrificed one time for us and that one time is all that was needed.

It's crystal clear.

88 posted on 04/09/2016 2:03:53 PM PDT by ealgeone (The)
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To: metmom

This is really getting ridiculous isn’t it? The word Eucharist is what we call for the consecrated host. This is what the early disciples of Christ believed when he said that unless you eat of my body and drink of my blood you will not have everlasting life.

To deny the Eucharist, you will have to REFUTE:

1. Scripture itself. John 6:53

2. The sacred oral tradition, the very tradition that was used to cross check and cross reference the books in the Bible that were infallibly assembled as authentic by the Catholic Church. So if you doubt the oral tradition, you must doubt the fact-checking sources for the Bible, and consequently the accuracy of the Bible itself. You cannot have it both ways by accepting the Bible as authentic and un-tether its infallibility from the sacred oral tradition.

3. The beliefs and practices of the early disciples of Christ before the Bible was assembled in the early fourth century.

4. The beliefs of saints, martyrs, and stigmatists who believed that the Sacrifice of the Mass and the Holy Eucharist is at the very center of Christian belief and this is why the Tabernacle was at the center of all Catholic Churches and worship and was so for FIFTEEN CENTURIES (AND CONTINUES TO BE) before the curse of Protestantism in 1517 (especially now with their mainline denominations using scriptural warrant to ordain gay, lesbian, and coming soon, transgender pastors) washed ashore spreading, what the great essayist Hillaire Belloc called, a “cluster of heresies.”

5. The explicit writings of the early Church fathers.

This would include St. Irenaeus of Lyons, an early Church Father and Doctor of the Church

https://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/library_article/541/Eucharist_as_Pledge_of_Resurrection_St._Irenaeus.html

Written by St. Irenaeus about 185 AD, this excerpt in the link above makes clear the Church’s realistic interpretation of the Eucharist as the risen body of Christ.

In fact, the real presence of the body and blood of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist (transubstantiation), also known as Mass or the Lord’s Supper, was taken for granted in the early Church.


89 posted on 04/09/2016 2:06:22 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: metmom
Show us where in Scripture the word eucharist is found and show us where Jesus says that if you don’t believe inthe eucharist, you don’t get to heaven.

You KNOW it ain't there, but the ECF SURELY said so in Acts 15: the Letter to the Gentiles...

149 posted on 04/10/2016 5:36:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Show me anywhere on this board that a Catholic has told you that not believing in the Eucharist means you go to hell. In fact its the other way around. I’ve been roundly condemned on this thread but since I know I’m a friend and sister of Jesus it doesn’t worry me. You do however, sound a bit worried. ;-D


247 posted on 04/10/2016 3:12:22 PM PDT by Mercat
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