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To: ealgeone

If one goes to daily Mass the Bible reading is complete. And you have not said whether you will accept my challenge to attend a Catholic Mass. I’ll go to any Protestant service you wish. I live in eastern Kansas. Pick one.


38 posted on 04/08/2016 5:21:17 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat
I’ll go to any Protestant service you wish

I'd rather be dragged naked through a room of broken glass and then used as a catbox. How can you stand it?

40 posted on 04/08/2016 5:31:17 PM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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To: Mercat
It's been a long time since I've seen a catholic mass. I have no desire to go to something that is based upon a false teaching of the NT.

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=81943 based on this discussion your statement is incorrect about covering all of the bible.

I reference this post from another thread on FR that captures information in a much cleaner format than I was going to present.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2375781/posts

41 posted on 04/08/2016 5:33:24 PM PDT by ealgeone (The)
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To: Mercat; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
If one goes to daily Mass the Bible reading is complete. And you have not said whether you will accept my challenge to attend a Catholic Mass. I’ll go to any Protestant service you wish. I live in eastern Kansas. Pick one.

That is simply not True. Although as i recall, my own research has shown the stats from http://catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm to be too low (a daily Mass-going Catholic only hear 12.7% of the Bible over the two year reading cycle) yet only a vert very small % of RCs go to Mass daily, and as a former weekly mass-going RC and lector I know that even the verses that are read often are only parts of verses, and or have sections in brackets that may be omitted.

Moreover, while more of the Bible is read at Mass than just the readings, these are most redundant readings, as the readings for Sunday Mass are repeated every three years, while those for for Weekday Mass are repeated every two years. And while the amounts of the Bible that RCs read/hear is likely more than in many Protestant churches - often wrongly broadly defined - most RCs the only reading/hearing of the Bible is likely at Mass:

42.1% of Evangelical Protestants and 7.1% of Catholics read Scripture weekly or more. (http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/33304.pdf) Bible Reading: the highest was 75%, by those going to a Pentecostal/Foursquare church who reported they had read the Bible during the past week (besides at church), while the lowest was among Catholics at 23%. (http://www.science20.com/print/972444) 25% of Evangelical Christians and 20% of other Protestants and 7% of Catholics said the read the Bible on a daily basis. 44% of Catholics said they rarely or never read the Bible, along with only 7% of Evangelical Christians and 13% of other Protestants. 68% of Evangelical Christians attend a regular Bible Study or participate in some other small-group activity. 47% of other Protestants take part in small groups related to their faith, along with 24% of Catholics. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/december_2008/catholics_protestants_practice_faith_in_different_ways)

An industrious RC on another forum reports "by my calculations, the 3-year Sunday readings cover about 5%-10% of the Old Testament and about 42% of the New Testament." "I was able to come up with a more precise estimate of the Old Testament covered in the 3-year Sunday readings based on the number of verses read: 5%. The Old Testament contains about 27,524 verses of which about 1362 are read in the 3-year Sunday readings. The New Testament contains about 7954 verses of which about 3372 are read in the 3-year Sunday readings."

"The readings for Sunday Mass are repeated every three years. The reading for Weekday Mass are repeated every two years. The following table, based on my own calculations (and therefore likely not entirely error-free), will give you an idea of about what percentage of the Bible, Testament, or each individual book of the Bible, you might hear read at Mass over the course of any three-year period, based on the number of verses read. (Note: All optional Mass readings were included. Also, a verse was counted even if only part of verse is used.)"

Book(s) (verses) . . . . . . Sundays only . . Sundays & Weekdays



Entire Bible (35478). . . . . . 14% (5035) . . . 30% (10722)
Old Testament (27524) . . . 6% (1663) . . . . 18% (4830)

Genesis (1532) . . . . . . . . . 8% (123) . . . . . 27% (420)
Exodus (1213). . . . . . . . . . 10% (127) . . . . 20% (245)
Leviticus (859). . . . . . . . . . 1% (8). . . . . . . 5% (41)
Numbers (1288. . . . . . . . . 1% (17). . . . . . 6% (82)
Deuteronomy (959). . . . . . 5% (52). . . . . . 13% (123)
Joshua (657). . . . . . . . . . . 2% (10). . . . . . 7% (43)
Judges (618). . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0). . . . . . . 8% (51)
Ruth (85). . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0). . . . . . . 25% (21)
1 Samuel (809) . . . . . . . . . 3% (24). . . . . . 19% (153)
2 Samuel (695) . . . . . . . . . 3% (21). . . . . . 15% (107)
1 Kings (816). . . . . . . . . . . 4% (31). . . . . . 19% (158)
2 Kings (719). . . . . . . . . . . 1% (14). . . . . . 16% (118)
1 Chronicles (943) . . . . . . 1% (6). . . . . . . 1% (9)
2 Chronicles (821) . . . . . . 2% (18) . . . . . . 3% (26)
Ezra (280) . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . 8% (21)
Nehemiah (405) . . . . . . . . 2% (9) . . . . . . 5% (20)
Tobit (245). . . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . 32% (79)
Judith (340). . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . 3% (9)
Esther (272) . . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0). . . . . . 6% (15)
1 Maccabees (921). . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . 6% (53)
2 Maccabees (556). . . . . . 2% (12) . . . . . 7% (38)
Job (1060). . . . . . . . . . . . . 2% (17) . . . . . 8% (87)
Psalms (2524) . . . . . . . . . . 26% (648) . . . 50% (1263)

Proverbs (914). . . . . . . . . . 3% (24). . . . . . 6% (56)
Ecclesiastes (222). . . . . . . 2% (4). . . . . . . 15% (34)
Song of Songs (117) . . . . . 0% (0). . . . . . . 11% (13)
Wisdom (436) . . . . . . . . . . 11% (50). . . . . 25% (109)
Sirach (1372). . . . . . . . . . . 4% (54) . . . . . 16% (226)
Isaiah (1281). . . . . . . . . . . 15% (192). . . . 26% (335)
Jeremiah (1364) . . . . . . . . 32% (43). . . . . 12% (165)
Lamentations (154). . . . . . 0% (0). . . . . . . 5% (8)
Baruch (213). . . . . . . . . . . 13% (27). . . . . 22% (46)
Ezekiel (1255) . . . . . . . . . . 4% (48) . . . . . 14% (172)
Daniel (530) . . . . . . . . . . . 1% (7) . . . . . . 38% (204)
Hosea (196) . . . . . . . . . . . 7% (13). . . . . . 19% (38)
Joel (73) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16% (12). . . . . 44% (32)
Amos (146) . . . . . . . . . . . . 9% (13) . . . . . 35% (51)
Obadiah (21) . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . 0% (0)
Jonah (48) . . . . . . . . . . . . 13% (6) . . . . . . 90% (43)
Micah (105). . . . . . . . . . . . 4% (4) . . . . . . 23% (24)
Nahum (47). . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . 15% (7)
Habakkuk (56). . . . . . . . . 9% (5). . . . . . . 18% (10)
Zephaniah (53) . . . . . . . . 15% (8) . . . . . . 25% (13)
Haggai (38) . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0). . . . . . . 45% (17)
Zechariah (211) . . . . . . . . 2% (4). . . . . . . 12% (25)
Malachi (55). . . . . . . . . . . 22% (12). . . . . 36% (20)
Book(s) (verses) . . . . . . . . . Sundays only . . Sundays & Weekdays

New Testament (7954) . . . . . . 42% (3372) . . . . 74% (5892)

Matthew (1071) . . . . . . . . . . . 58% (623) . . . . . 87% (936)
Mark (678). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 61% (412) . . . . . 97% (656)
Luke (1151) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60% (690) . . . . . 89% (1026)
John (878) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62% (545) . . . . . 95% (833)
Acts of the Apostles (1006) . . 18% (182) . . . . . 52% (525)
Romans (433). . . . . . . . . . . . . 26% (114) . . . . . 53% (230)
1 Corinthians (437). . . . . . . . . 40% (173) . . . . . 59% (259)
2 Corinthians (256). . . . . . . . . 21% (53). . . . . . 50% (127)
Galatians (149) . . . . . . . . . . . 28% (41). . . . . . 60% (89)
Ephesians (155) . . . . . . . . . . . 59% (91). . . . . . 91% (141)
Philippians (104) . . . . . . . . . . 47% (49). . . . . . 71% (74)
Colossians (95) . . . . . . . . . . . 37% (35). . . . . . 68% (65)
1 Thessalonians (88) . . . . . . . 44% (39). . . . . . 74% (65)
2 Thessalonians (47) . . . . . . . 36% (17). . . . . . 62% (29)
1 Timothy (113) . . . . . . . . . . . 18% (20). . . . . . 53% (60)
2 Timothy (83) . . . . . . . . . . . . 30% (25). . . . . . 67% (56)
Titus (46) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17% (8). . . . . . . 61% (28)
Philemon (25). . . . . . . . . . . . . 32% (8) . . . . . . 56% (14)
Hebrews (303) . . . . . . . . . . . . 26% (80). . . . . . 62% (188)
James (108). . . . . . . . . . . . . . 29% (31). . . . . . 92% (99)
1 Peter (105). . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37% (39). . . . . . 81% (85)
2 Peter (61) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18% (11). . . . . . 33% (20)
1 John (105). . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30% (31). . . . . . 100% (105)
2 John (13). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . . 46% (6)
3 John (15). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . . 27% (4)
Jude (25). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0% (0) . . . . . . . 28% (7)
Revelation (404) . . . . . . . . . . 14% (55). . . . . . 41% (165) (Todd Easton: http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=1063633&postcount=9)

51 posted on 04/09/2016 7:05:30 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Mercat; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...

Every single verse?


52 posted on 04/09/2016 7:18:22 AM PDT by Gamecock ( Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul...Matthew 10:28)
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To: Mercat

If you pick up your Bible for yourself, you can get it all.

It’s simply laziness to let someone else do it for you and it’s no sign of super spirituality of a church to use that as the criteria to measure them by especially, if they don’t teach from it and encourage people to live it.

Reading it is good and fine but useless if you don’t let it have any impact on you.

I’d rather hear one verse that ends up doing its work in me than chapters that just bounce off and I don’t let move me.

My spiritual walk with Cherist is not dependent on church attendance.


58 posted on 04/09/2016 8:13:03 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mercat
If one goes to daily Mass the Bible reading is complete.

Oh?

I'll met you've NEVER heard Ezekiel 23:20 expounded on during Mass!

141 posted on 04/10/2016 5:20:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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