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A message to the Yoga community and abortion
clinicquotes.com ^ | March 3, 2016 | Sarah Terzo

Posted on 03/07/2016 8:32:50 PM PST by Morgana

Jeannine Parvati Baker talks about New Age yogis and abortion:

“Allow me first to first turn my attention to the yoga community wherein it is all too common for women yogis (yoginis) to abort their babies …

I have watched many of my yogini sisters procure abortions knowing that it was breaking the primary vow of ahimsa (harmlessness) that yogis make. They justified their actions with the confused philosophy of reincarnation and “free will.” In other words, they said that the soul knew “on some level’” what it was getting by choosing incarnation into a woman who did not want to be a mother just yet. Therefore “on some level’” the fetus being aborted accepts being returned back into the cosmos. Some yoginis have even had the hubris to state that their unwanted fetus was a “very advanced soul” who only needed to be incarnated for a very short time to complete its karma here on this plane of existence. Adding insult to injury they go on to state that they have done it a service by providing the soul with a temporary body to “finish up.” Maybe their unwanted baby was a samurai in a past life and by being aborted (by dilation and curretage), it is completing its own slicing karma (!) I am constantly amazed at the cleverness of the mind in justifying its own desires. Calling an aborted fetus a “high soul” not needing full deliverance on earth is an example of confused yoga.

Yoga clearly considers abortion killing–yet guru after guru condones abortion through metaphysical belief in reincarnation. “We only go around a thousand times so may may as well grab as much personal enlightenment as we can!” The most liberating belief in some ways is that this is our past life–with that philosophy we will do what is best for life now and not await our next chance, next lifetime….

How ironic it is that some yoginis will forego the eating of meat out of compassion for animals, yet this same sensitive compassion is not extended to unwanted babies…Having an abortion in order “to get my spiritual act together” is self-defeating”

from Pro-Life Feminism: A Spiritual Perspective

Jeannine Parvati Baker “THE SWORD WAS NOT WITH THE GODDESS: A SPIRITUAL MIDWIFE ADDRESSES THE NEED TO HEAL ABORTION” Feminism & Nonviolence Studies Fall 1998 – Special Issue on Spiritual Diversity


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Other non-Christian
KEYWORDS: abortion; ahimsa; clinicquotes; moralabsolutes; prolife; theysaidit; yoga
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"Having an abortion in order “to get my spiritual act together” is self-defeating”"

Amazing is it not that sometimes even pagan religions can figure it out?

1 posted on 03/07/2016 8:32:51 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

So like any other New Age crapola, in yoga you can make it up as you go along to justify any behavior? It’s really no better than islam, though I’m not aware of any Yogis justifying genital mutilation of women, beheadings, stoning rape victims at least not YET. HMM, better keep my mouth shut and not give these nutjobs any ideas.


2 posted on 03/07/2016 8:39:59 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Morgana

Precisely.
Abortion is an evil for nearly all modern religions, and many ancient ones.
You need to go into ancient classical paganism to find even a casual neutral attitude, and that is a religion with no real concept of evil.


3 posted on 03/07/2016 8:41:27 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Morgana

“How ironic it is that some yoginis will forego the eating of meat out of compassion for animals, yet this same sensitive compassion is not extended to unwanted babies…”

My sister is a vegan, into Yoga and pro-abortion. I pray she sees the real light.


4 posted on 03/07/2016 8:41:37 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Impala64ssa

What I’m hearing here isn’t yoga as a religion, but Hinduism.
The writer is describing a theological argument among people professing a version of the Hindu religion.


5 posted on 03/07/2016 8:43:36 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Huskrrrr; Impala64ssa; All

I’ve spent the better part of three days posting articles on so called Christians who are doing everything from praying for abortion to bragging on ones they’ve had. I get one pagan who sees the light and trust me, I will post that!!

Why you ask? She puts us to shame!

No I don’t agree with Yoga but I don’t have to. She has figured it out and is trying to teach others just like I’m doing.


6 posted on 03/07/2016 8:46:24 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

My God, even the female Yoga weirdos call themselves Yoginis. But the women who claim to be Catholic clergy just won’t call themselves priestesses?

Freegards


7 posted on 03/07/2016 8:50:08 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Morgana

Thank you for your posts. Yes, so many women in my church feel it is their right and duty to defend abortion (and men as well), that a women’s “choice” is somehow sanctioned by Jesus. It’s maddening. Your right a pro-life pagan gets it right on a very important issue.


8 posted on 03/07/2016 8:52:21 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Impala64ssa
So like any other New Age crapola, in yoga you can make it up as you go along to justify any behavior? It’s really no better than islam, though I’m not aware of any Yogis justifying genital mutilation of women, beheadings, stoning rape victims at least not YET. HMM, better keep my mouth shut and not give these nutjobs any ideas.

So blood slander is a Christian belief? Good job.

9 posted on 03/07/2016 10:41:05 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Morgana

Another reason Catholics are not to take part in yoga classes.


10 posted on 03/07/2016 10:43:34 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; Talisker

Read my post #6 Explains why I posted this.


11 posted on 03/08/2016 8:32:08 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Impala64ssa
So like any other New Age crapola, in yoga you can make it up as you go along to justify any behavior? It’s really no better than islam, though I’m not aware of any Yogis justifying genital mutilation of women, beheadings, stoning rape victims at least not YET. HMM, better keep my mouth shut and not give these nutjobs any ideas.

Crapola is right.

There IS no more "real" yoga and there hasn't been in a few thousand years. Modern day frauds continue because stupid people are SO desperate for SOME kind of direction in life that they turn to the yoga-frauds.
If people actually followed their own "faith of their fathers" there would be none of the crapola that abounds today.

12 posted on 03/08/2016 11:45:04 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Salvation
Another reason Catholics are not to take part in yoga classes.

I taught yoga for YEARS but always started the class with the caveat that MY yoga instruction would be stretching, strengthening, breathing and relaxing and if the folks wanted anything M0RE, they should attend the local commercial yoga studios.

That stopped all the would be-fanatics from staying in my classes. I always said the TRUTH from the get-go. Best way to go.

13 posted on 03/08/2016 11:48:37 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Morgana
Like homosexuality, abortion was generally considered taboo by most widespread Eastern religions.

God's laws are written on our hearts.

14 posted on 03/08/2016 11:53:13 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: cloudmountain; Morgana

Yoga should be not participated in by Christians.

Every position is a stance that is in worship of one or more of the many gods of the Hindu religion.

During and for a period after Jesus’ reign on earth in human form there was a significant reductions in abortions.


15 posted on 03/09/2016 8:59:03 AM PST by Dr. Zoo (Ti Ming -- Use Liberally)
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To: Dr. Zoo; cloudmountain

“Yoga should be not participated in by Christians.”

I never said it should. The point of this thread is why is it a pagan gets it that abortion is wrong when all last week I posted thread after thread in the religion forum of people who call themselves Christian bragging and praying for abortion? Stay on topic will ya?

This time a pagan got it how come so called Christians are missing the mark?


16 posted on 03/09/2016 9:05:38 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Salvation

“Another reason Catholics are not to take part in yoga classes.”

says who? Do you have a basis for saying this? Can you site something besides your opinion?


17 posted on 03/09/2016 6:18:41 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: cloudmountain

Slamming yoga because someone believes it:

a) is worshiping some hindu god
b) thinks it leads to abortion
c) is prohibited by Catholics

is ignorance.

Criminey! You folks can’t get some exercise without overthinking yoga? I’ve been practicing yoga for years and never got the feeling someone was trying to influence my religion. I’m not saying there are not some over zealous weird yoga teachers out there, but if you can’t figure out that you can go to another studio that does not have any of that, you need help. Yoga has so many health benefits that out weigh the negatives.

These days there is a yoga studio on every corner. Try different ones that match your style.


18 posted on 03/09/2016 6:28:21 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: Morgana

Back off, I didn’t say you did.

I was commenting to another poster.

And being as this is the Religion Forum I posted some valuable information for those reading and commenting on the thread.

Most people practicing yoga do now know what I revealed.

My last sentence was on topic.

Go back and read it and rejoice.


19 posted on 03/09/2016 9:56:38 PM PST by Dr. Zoo (Ti Ming -- Use Liberally)
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To: Dr. Zoo

a bit testy for someone who calls them selves christian?


20 posted on 03/10/2016 10:17:35 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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