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To: Syncro
“Revelation, Catholic chapter three”

What does that mean, “Catholic chapter three?”

Is there a translation labeled “Catholic?”

If so, can you post it from the Catholic chapter three translation?

Thanks in advance.

If one simply googles "how did the bible get chapters and verses" one might find:

The original manuscripts did not contain the chapter and verse divisions in the numbered form familiar to modern readers.

...

Cardinal Hugo de Sancto Caro is often given credit for first dividing the Latin Vulgate into chapters in the real sense, but it is the arrangement of his contemporary and fellow cardinal Stephen Langton who in 1205 created the chapter divisions which are used today. They were then inserted into Greek manuscripts of the New Testament in the 15th century. Robert Estienne (Robert Stephanus) was the first to number the verses within each chapter, his verse numbers entering printed editions in 1551 (New Testament) and 1571 (Hebrew Bible).[16]

The division of the Bible into chapters and verses has received criticism from some traditionalists and modern scholars. Critics state that the text is often divided in an incoherent way, or at inappropriate rhetorical points, and that it encourages citing passages out of context. Nevertheless, the chapter and verse numbers have become indispensable as technical references for Bible study.


Since it is now a requirement of the RM that everyone cite the chapter, verse, and version when they post scripture, I do it this way to give full credit, as it were, to whom those who insituted it. The former was a Catholic Bishop/Cardinal and the latter was a Catholic who became a Protestant. It is an curious mirror to the RF debates occurring every day on the RF ...

You are, of course, welcome to this information in the hopes it will aid you in your pilgrimage.

519 posted on 02/29/2016 5:02:08 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Thanks anyway but I am aware of all of that.

No need to google something I already know, and that doesn’t address the issue I was discussing with you.

You didn’t answer my question, no problem I’m used to the diversions when posters don’t want to reveal what ever it is they fear.

It seems to be a mountain out of a molehill as you even state that using verse #s has become indispensable as technical references for Bible study.

Yet you seem to go out of your way to make them out to be un-Catholic to consider. Maybe because Catholics didn’t think of it first? I dunno and is of no consequence.

My pilgrimage is over and has been for decades back when I became a Christian and a member of the REAL body of Christ.

Catholicism seems to follow the We’re on our way but aren’t there yet, but fully saved born again Christian folks don’t as we have assurance of salvation as Jesus promised.

Scripture references available upon request.

We take Jesus at His Word and are not influenced away from it by the doctrines of Catholicism.

No problem you skirting the request to post the quote from a/or Catholic version as it has been shown and acknowledged even by Catholics to have errors.

There are a few Catholic posters that discount everything someone says if they make thypos or grammatical errors but I don’t do that. It’s childish as it’s easy to see what is meant even with thypos or other minor errors as one types.

Oh and just a hint about your blue font in many of our posts.

It would be easier to read if it wasn’t posted as a block of text without paragraph or at least line breaks.

Would have helped with the royal (purple) text in your reply I am responding to but I made an effort to read it.

BTW when I read the Bible I pretty much ignore the verse numbers unless I wish to reference them to help those that are lost to see the way to a relationship with Jesus that leads to everlasting life with God.

They serve as line breaks and make the text more readable.

Imagine if the whole bible was only printed as a giant wall of text?

That would be almost as bad as what was done in the past by Catholicism, not letting the “little” people have copies of the Bible and killing those that tried to make them available.

Some here still tell us OTC Christians that we should only accept the interpretations of the Bible done by Catholics but we prefer the Holy Spirit over the declarations of fallible men.


541 posted on 02/29/2016 9:53:44 AM PST by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstable in all his ways-- Holy Bible)
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To: af_vet_1981

I await the documentation about the infighting over which books were going to be included in the first place.


550 posted on 02/29/2016 12:08:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981; Syncro

I seem to remember you being specifically ordered by the RM to start including the references in your Bible passages because you had the habit of pasting verses from several books/chapters together that often made them say something that they didn’t say causing confusion.


565 posted on 02/29/2016 12:51:18 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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