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What Does It Mean to Be an Enemy of the Cross?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 02-22-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 02/23/2016 8:17:35 AM PST by Salvation

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To: imardmd1
I am really going to fry some of Gorton’s breaded filets

Enjoy.

481 posted on 02/28/2016 5:39:19 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

I am perplexed. Who told you that? I don’t see it in the official translation of the inspired text (DRB).


482 posted on 02/28/2016 5:54:41 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: annalex; imardmd1; Mark17; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; MHGinTN; boatbums; Cvengr; ...

Except the problem is, you never present anything to back up your statements.

All we get from you is your opinion.

Your own personal interpretation of Catholicism, as it were.....

YOPIOC

......stated as fact, as if every Catholic on the planet agrees with you, or as if you are presuming to speak for Catholicism as a whole.

On what basis should we take seriously ANYTHING that comes out of your keyboard.

Please provide unbiased, objective sources that validates your being a spokesman for all of Catholicism.


483 posted on 02/28/2016 5:56:14 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: annalex
This sentence about “flesh no help” means that the Eucharist nourishes our spirit and comes from the entirety of Christ including His words, but it does not mean that it is not itself blood, flesh and divinity of Christ.

Is that in the catechism?

Please provide the official church approved source to back up your statement.

484 posted on 02/28/2016 5:57:59 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: annalex; Religion Moderator; HiTech RedNeck; boatbums; metmom; Mark17; Springfield Reformer; ...
I am sorry about something and need to apologize. In my Post 438, I wrote as though I were speaking for others of this forum and site.

I am NOT speaking for them, and it was very presumptuous of me to say so.

My words were mine alone, and I was not voicing anythig on behalf of others.

There is no clique being formed against you.

I am responsible for what I say, and to try to enlist others as a gang of spoilers would be wrong.

I beg your forgiveness and indulgence as well as that of everyone I addresses this to.

485 posted on 02/28/2016 6:11:59 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: annalex; metmom
The truth is that we are sanctified by both faith and works of faith. We are not sanctified solely by faith and we are not sanctified solely by works.

This much is true both for Christians and for Catholics.

No goal posts have been moved.

Ah, no, you've got this wrong.

For the truly regenerated follower of Christ, salvation/justification precedes and provokes sanctification; not vice versa as for those believing in the RCC paradigm.

486 posted on 02/28/2016 6:41:33 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Iscool

Yay!


487 posted on 02/28/2016 6:45:17 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: terycarl
Are you insinuating, for one fleet second, that is one believes that Jesus is the savior.....that the person can lead whatever lifestyle he chooses, marry whichever sex person he chooses, divorces that person, marries another, demands that she have an abortion,.....and on and on and on....is saved???????????????????????????????

Um. No.

Nobody ever said that simply believing that Jesus is the Savior is enough. Nor has anyone ever said that simply claiming one has faith is enough, although Catholics never seem to tire of those accusations.

Receiving Jesus by faith is what gives a person the right and authority to become a child of God.

John 1:10-13 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Here is some Scripture that tells how it is done and what Christians have done to be born again.

Romans 10:9-13 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

Not believes about Him. Believes IN Him.

Think the tax collector and the Pharisee standing outside the Temple praying.

Who was justified? The publican who in humility asked for a pardon and got it, or the religious practitioner who bragged on his works?

488 posted on 02/28/2016 6:55:25 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 1:5-11

489 posted on 02/28/2016 6:59:56 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Springfield Reformer
A sweetly written, nourishing summary of why we were given the imperative to regularly gather together to worship and honor the Great Teacher by remembering His death, burial, and resurrection, in it prompted buy the familiar tokens of His Passion, the bread and wine that carried our mental imagery to the piercing, beating, bruising, cutting, dislocations, perforation, and lacerations of His Body by disgruntled humans; the burning of His flesh as in a smelting furnace by the fiery wrath of The Sin-offended God; and the pouring out of His Blood and edema, laced by the poisonous products of tortured twisting on that engine of terror and agonizing death. Was that all in the cup and the bread they and we consumed? I think we know more now than the disciples did at the moment of the inauguration of the death-supper, whose meaning was later stamped on them as on a vise that impresses on a coin the visage and memory of a victorious commander of war and peace.

(Just sayin')

Thanks for your labors to paint a true and glorious picture of the Man Who chose us as His Friends and Warriors!

490 posted on 02/28/2016 7:13:36 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: annalex
Huh? I don't understand your answer. It was not a complex question. You seem to have answered choice c which is really choice b. But to make sure....You said that Jesus broke the law, and I asked:

Before I answer your question, first, please answer mine: “Do you mean the written word of God, or do you mean Jewish “tradition” handed down to them by their fathers?”

What do YOU, annalex, mean when you say Jewish law? Do you mean Torah, the Word of God, or the traditions of the Jews?

You answer is either:
a) the Word of God (the OT)
b) the traditions that the Jews made, which added to the Word
c) both. Oh, wait, that is really choice b.

Two options. which do you say is Jewish Law. We can’t have a conversation until we know what you are talking about. Simple reply to this post. Either a or b.

Your post did not answer the question, but seemed to be a move in dodge ball. Will you answer the question? Not modifiers. You either believe or meant that Jewish law IS the word of God, or that it is tradition and the Word. Which one? Simple question. It should be a simple answer. If it isn't, then you don't know the answer or are avoiding the questions.

491 posted on 02/28/2016 7:21:56 PM PST by lupie
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To: annalex
Yeah, we all would do better if we cut to the chase faster.

We could cut to the deliberating on the implications and applications of Scripture if/when God allows (through faith) to receive that what you reckon as a parable, a literal rendering of figurative language, is really a revealed "mystery" of the kingdom of Heaven; whilst at the same time you leave behind "charlatan" and "Protestant" and other invective that soil and distance your readers.

Still, access to that route is clearly up to The God Who Alone saves, and is a shore you cannot reach until you cast all your trust on Jesus alone, and not on the Magisterium and its dogma.

492 posted on 02/28/2016 7:40:49 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Springfield Reformer
SR, to me this and your other posts on this topic are a bottle of shampoo above the promptness, authority, clarity, quality, and perspicacity of anyone else's entries on this topic, a manual of defense of The Faith in this matter. Without being obsequious, they are a challenge to greater diligence on the part of your FRiends and imitators.

Thank you for exercising this great gift.

493 posted on 02/28/2016 7:58:34 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: annalex; imardmd1; Elsie; Mark17; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; MHGinTN; boatbums; ...
That (what is "the Lord's body"?), the Gospel does not say.

It certainly does.

That, the Gospel does not say. But it does say that the Eucharist is His body.

No it doesn't that is not scriptural.

The first person to use the term eucharist was Justin Martyr about 150 years after Jesus started the custom of communion at what is commonly referred to as The Lord's Supper.

Another ex post facto error by Catholicism.

Jesus said do this in remembrance of Me

It is commonly held that the Eucharist contains the body, soul and the divinity of Christ

Not by Christians outside of Catholicism. Except maybe a few copy-cat denominations.

I do not tell you what my opinions are

Did you read your whole post before you typed that? Because it isn't factual

Here's some examples of your opinions just from this one post I am replying to.

1) That, the Gospel does not say (that is your opinion and and not factual)

2) it does say that the Eucharist is His body (another opinion not backed up by scripture, the word "eucharist" was not mentioned for about a century and one half. See above)

If you want to learn what the Catholic Church teaches through the Holy Scripture...

I think myself and the other Christians here would rather learn and study what the Holy Scriptures teach us using the Holy Spirit instead of the Catholic Church.

God is a lot more accurate.

494 posted on 02/28/2016 8:15:50 PM PST by Syncro (John 1:5-The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.)
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To: Syncro
Real Presence

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses eighteen to twenty one,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

495 posted on 02/28/2016 9:15:18 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

“Revelation, Catholic chapter three”

What does that mean, “Catholic chapter three?”

Is there a translation labeled “Catholic?”

If so, can you post it from the Catholic chapter three translation?

Thanks in advance.


496 posted on 02/28/2016 9:24:28 PM PST by Syncro (John 1:5-The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.)
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To: Syncro

LoL marker


497 posted on 02/28/2016 9:52:59 PM PST by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN
Hubble, double toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble.

DADDY!!!

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498 posted on 02/29/2016 12:23:37 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
I cannot give you a dissertation each time you post a one-liner.

Our prayers are being answered!

499 posted on 02/29/2016 12:24:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
We are not sanctified solely by faith...

I guess that OUR dissertations to the opposite have had no effect in changing (or even CHALLENGING) what you've been so thoroughly taught.

500 posted on 02/29/2016 12:26:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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