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PCUSA on Track to Lose Over 400K Members by 2020
Christian Post ^ | 02/08/2016 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 02/09/2016 8:15:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/09/2016 8:15:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 02/09/2016 8:16:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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3 posted on 02/09/2016 8:17:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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4 posted on 02/09/2016 8:18:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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The catholic churches her are getting more and more empty, except for the holidays.

I wonder if Christian churches will exist in 100 years here as American disinterest and muslim aggressiveness take hold.

At this point, I would be happy for Christians to go into any Christian church and try to find God again.


5 posted on 02/09/2016 8:19:21 AM PST by dp0622
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I have contacts in the local PCUSA congregation and they tell me it’s hard to get a replacement minister to replace those ministers who leave.


6 posted on 02/09/2016 8:19:54 AM PST by Ciexyz
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Yeah but they got have gays now


7 posted on 02/09/2016 8:20:33 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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We have a big Korean community here in the Bay Area and they seem to be mostly Presbyterians. Does anyone know which side of the homosexual issue these guys line up on?


8 posted on 02/09/2016 8:20:41 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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Korean Pres are not pRo homo. There are many conservative Presbyterian denominations and afaik the KPC is one of them.


9 posted on 02/09/2016 8:23:36 AM PST by Persevero (NUTS)
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When I saw “PCUSA” in the byline I thought it meant “Partido Communista, USA”.

Not too far off, IMO.


10 posted on 02/09/2016 8:27:07 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: SeekAndFind; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; kosciusko51; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; ...
GRPL Ping.

Fot those of you who really want to understand the roots of this nonsense, check out Machen's Christianity and Liberalism. (Free to read at the link)

He was the canary in the coalmine and chased out of the liberal Presbyterian Church. This should be required reading for all Christians, IMHO.

11 posted on 02/09/2016 8:28:35 AM PST by Gamecock ( Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul...Matthew 10:28)
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One weakness in her analysis:

“The projected membership decline is equivalent to the denomination closing 1,000 churches a year, every year, for five years. That would cut the number of PCUSA churches in the country literally in half.”

That would assume that all churches were the size of the average church - they aren’t. Tends to be the larger churches leaving. So 10,000 leaving may just represent a half dozen churches.

And on the other end of the scale, if 95% of the membership of a particular congregation departs, the denomination may designate the remaining 5% as the continuing church. A 1000 member church might become a 50 member church, with no decline in the number of churches.

So while the number of members to be lost sounds about right, she is grossly over-inflating the decrease to come in the number of churches.


12 posted on 02/09/2016 8:34:19 AM PST by PAR35
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The catholic churches her are getting more and more empty, except for the holidays.

Between the Yankees moving south and the Mexicans moving north, the Catholic churches around here are packed and having to constantly expand. There is such a shortage of priests, about half the clergy are permanent deacons, most of whom are married and either retired or working full time jobs.

13 posted on 02/09/2016 8:39:29 AM PST by PAR35
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Christians who are not homosexual and read the Bible will not put up with queer priests/ministers. The Scriptures make it clear that sex outside of marriage, that is marriage of a man and woman is a sin. Why do people think God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah? Homosexuality is an abomination.

Bye-Bye Presbyterian Church.

14 posted on 02/09/2016 8:39:59 AM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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You don’t suppose that rabid support for disease-ridden illegal aliens and perverts have played a role in membership going over the cliff, do you?


15 posted on 02/09/2016 8:42:29 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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I told my nephew when he moved to NC a few months ago:

Dont #### it up down there by voting left. You moved because of all the things you didn’t like about NJ and like about there.

If you think you’re better than them with ideals that didn’t work here, then move the #### back up here and leave them alone.


16 posted on 02/09/2016 8:42:58 AM PST by dp0622
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he’s my favorite nephew by far but i sense leftism in him and remind him alot that his deceased father, whom he loved so much and who was in Vietnam, was a patriotic conservative.

If that doesn’t work, I’ll put his head through sheetrock.

Like my italian uncles did to me when i got involved with a bad crowd.


17 posted on 02/09/2016 8:44:49 AM PST by dp0622
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While the Koreans tend to the conservative side of things, there are a affiliated with a range of denominations. KPCA, of course; the PCA has 9 exclusively Korean presbyteries and a few Korean churches in Anglophone presbyteries; PCUSA has some Korean churches (and any Korean church that is in the PCUSA can’t be considered conservative given the options available. Directory of PCUSA Korean churches here: https://www.pcusa.org/site_media/media/uploads/korean/pdf/directory.pdf ).


18 posted on 02/09/2016 8:47:40 AM PST by PAR35
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You don't suppose that rabid support for disease-ridden illegal aliens and perverts have played a role in membership going over the cliff, do you?

No, throwing out the Word of God sent them over the cliff. Don't confuse the symptom with the cause.

19 posted on 02/09/2016 8:49:33 AM PST by PAR35
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The PCUSA has been a bastion of blasphemy for a long long time, If you want to hear blasphemy ever weak from the pulpit, they are the place to be.


20 posted on 02/09/2016 8:50:57 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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