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To: af_vet_1981

Sorry, busy weekend away from the pc, and only have a few minutes.

**1.Do you obey this scripture ?**

Not as much as I should.

**Do you pray the “Our Father” on a regular basis ?**

It is of course the great example, set forth by the Expert. I find it to be a good prayer IF I’m praying it in earnest, thinking on each line and how it applies to my own situation in this world. If I just pray it to achieve a sense of religiosity, then I’m not really praying.

**2.Who did the Messiah pray to ?**

To the Father, of course, while in the flesh.
When you no longer need help, you no longer ask for it. The Son no longer needs help overcoming the flesh, and has been given all power to be the mediator for those still in need of divine help and deliverance.

**3.Who do you pray to ?

The Son is still in the Father, and the Father in him; the fullness of the Godhead bodily. I can pray to God, addressing him with titles, but always in the name of Jesus.

John 14:21-24 doesn’t take away the source of all words and power from the Father, as seen in verse 24:

“He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the WORD which ye hear is NOT mine, BUT the FATHER’S which sent me.” (my caps)

The struggle for physical man to comprehend the invisible domain of God is shown in verse 22:

“Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?”

The Christ explains that he will be manifest in a new way to them. He had to go away in order for his mind to be multiplied infinitely. That’s why the Comforter could not come until the Son departed from their sight. He told them:

“I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.” John 14:18

Just like the Son, this manifestation will not promote a mind of his own, but only what he shall hear, that shall he speak (Jn 14:13).

It still boils down to God the Father being supreme in all things, using such exquisite, and mind blowing methods to commune with his creation.


78 posted on 02/21/2016 12:14:32 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel
To the Father, of course, while in the flesh.

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

John, Catholic chapter twenty, Protestant verse seventeen,
John, Catholic chapter twenty, Protestant verses twenty seven to twenty nine,
Acts, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses six to twelve,
Revelation, Catholic chapter fourteen, Protestant verse one,
Revelation, Catholic chapter twenty two, Protestant verses three to six,
Revelation, Catholic chapter twenty two, Protestant verses thirteen to sixteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James,
boldness mine

80 posted on 02/21/2016 7:13:08 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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