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To: Zuriel
To the Father, of course, while in the flesh.

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

John, Catholic chapter twenty, Protestant verse seventeen,
John, Catholic chapter twenty, Protestant verses twenty seven to twenty nine,
Acts, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses six to twelve,
Revelation, Catholic chapter fourteen, Protestant verse one,
Revelation, Catholic chapter twenty two, Protestant verses three to six,
Revelation, Catholic chapter twenty two, Protestant verses thirteen to sixteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James,
boldness mine

80 posted on 02/21/2016 7:13:08 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

The question of pinpointing the Father’s presence is a difficult one, since He is found in Christ and Christ found in Him; proving the Father’s omnipresence.

How far did the Son ascend? Five miles? Ten? Ten billion?

If he had departed horizontally, people would have been looking for him everywhere, instead of following his command to wait in Jerusalem for the “promise of the Father”.

For whatever it is worth, the “do his commandments” phrase (from Rev. 22:14) means “wash their robes” (in the Greek text. according to the 1948 Oxford U. commentary I use most of the time).

My pc time is so short right now, any further comments will have to wait. It’s the nature of my truck driver job.


81 posted on 02/22/2016 8:14:32 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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