Posted on 02/02/2016 8:30:41 AM PST by Salvation
For my first assignment as a priest I was sent to a large parish located in a suburb just inside the Washington Beltway. At the time it was flourishing, with four well-attended masses each Sunday. The people there loved their parish and spoke with devotion of the former pastor who, though he had died a dozen years before, loomed large in the memories of both Church and neighborhood. He was from that generation of pastors who had an almost kingly status. He stood 6'4" and his physical stature was matched by his personality. He was so strong a leader and had such a booming voice that people swore you could hear him from outside the Church when he preached. Parishioners loved or feared him; city/county officials respected him and knew that little would be politically feasible without his support.
When I arrived, the congregation consisted mostly of older families headed by World War II veterans, many of them retired. They had worked at blue-collar and white-collar jobs, government jobs and industrial jobs at the nearby Navy Yard. They were proud and remembered the sacrifices it had taken to build the parish "after the War." Indeed, the parish was one of those "factories" we used to build. The grammar school, a three-story solid brick structure, had once been filled with 1500 children. The church seated over a thousand and in the halcyon days of late 1950s and early 1960s the rectory housed five priests; the convent was built for 25 religious sisters and was full. Right next door was the high school, staffed by another religious order. In all, the parish stretched two blocks along the main street of that town. Thousands moved through its facilities each day.
But by the time I arrived in the late 1980s an era was ending. The demographics of the neighborhood had already begun to change in the early 1970s. A white (Caucasian), blue-collar community became steadily black (African-American) and blue-collar. Many longtime parishioners began to locate south of the Washington Beltway into southern Prince George's County and northern Charles County. Yet through the 1980s, even though they moved farther and farther away, older parishioners and even their children (now adults with families of their own) remained intensely loyal to the parish. They often drove past several other parishes to come back to the family parish. When I arrived in the late 1980s, the neighborhood was 90% African-American but the parish was 85% white.
I learned over the years that when a parish starts to rely on "commuter" parishioners instead of those who actually live within its boundaries, two things happen. First, necessary changes to reach new neighbors are resisted. Second, attendance erodes as older members die. And while the children of the founding families may still have some loyalty to the parish, it tends to fade when the matriarch or patriarch dies; and the loyalty is seldom shared by the grandchildren.
Add to all this the fact that during the 1970s and 1980s large numbers of Catholics fell away from the practice of the faith. With each passing year the numbers dropped significantly. By 1995 the average Sunday attendance had fallen below 1000 and the downward trend continued from there; today 400 is typical.
The scenario above has been repeated in countless congregations throughout the country, especially in the Northeast and Midwest where demographic shifts have been seismic.
Demographic shifts are generally not something that parishes can control. However, there are internal issues that can help or harm, especially when the issue is not depopulation but rather changing ethnicity or race in the neighborhood.
I know that posts like this provoke controversy. People and priests get very attached to particular parishes and formats and to what is familiar. But after forty years of working in parishes as choir director, organist, seminarian, priest, and pastor, I can say that all of them have changed in profound ways over the decades. I have seldom found a parish locked in commuter mode or niche marketing that remains strong and healthy for long without deep connections to their actual neighbors.
It is true that certain parishes (e.g., shrines, or those in downtown settings with few Catholic residents) may have a stable focus or need to do specific things to attract congregations. But for most parishes the meat and potatoes is going to have to be the people who actually live in the area. They are, after all, the people a parish is supposed to reach. When a parish prefers to reach other people, or despairs of reaching its actual neighbors, it strays from the will of Christ, who bids us to go unto all people and nations and make disciples. And if a parish strays from its job as Christ has set it forth, can it expect to be blessed? Well, you decide.
I suspect that some of the comments to this post will be ones that defend a particular scenario that is at variance with the "neighborhood model." You are free to do so, but at least factor in the traditional stance of the Church: divide the world into territorial parishes and ask each parish to tend to its particular vineyard first. Does your parish meet that goal? Even if you are from a "national parish" (which is rare today), the mandate to go into the whole world, starting at our front door, cannot be set aside. The Church should never be a "strange building" in a neighborhood. It is not an island set apart. Rather, it is an oasis in the desert of every neighborhood, deeply connected to its neighbors and their salvation.
Nonsense: the one true church is the corporate body of Christ as it alone 100% consists of only believers, while the visible church is an amalgam of both wheat and tares, esp. the church of Rome and liberal Prot churches, yet as even the church of the Laodiceans was called a church then perhaps this allows the church of Rome to be called a church.
While arrogantly refusing to consider evangelical churches as worthy to proper be called churches, though converts from which she covets to enliven her pews,V2 generally affirmed such as being children of God in whom the Spirit resides, but in addition to the fundamental and substantial deformation of the NT church that Rome is the most manifest example of doctrinally, as she treats even publicly known proabortion, prosodomite public souls as members in life and in death, then for that reason alone we must separate from her.
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? (2 Corinthians 6:14-15)
This is a mindset which the church needs to address with a program of spiritual conversion. This begins, in my opinion, by recognizing that the parish is dealing with a "new normal," which can be difficult in an old parish. (In the suburban South, where everything is new, the expectation that things will continue "as they always have" is usually not there.)
I'm not saying the prospect is easy or guaranteed successful, but if we say it's not possible, we're saying God is not omnipotent.
Your comment: “the one true church is the corporate body of Christ as it alone 100% consists of only believers”
Yes, there is one true church that is one holy catholic and apostolic. We welcome all sinners and even non believers as did Jesus.
Our mission is to baptize and spread the Word of God. We are not the judge of sinners or non believers, as that is God’s role.
The sinners and non believers need to hear the Word of God.
You may believe in your own church or your own fallible views of religion as certainly man has created many churches over the years separate from the one founded by Jesus Christ.
The man made churches may do many good things in spreading the Word of God, but do not always follow the teachings of Jesus.
That makes sense that it is more understandable with newer structures. Here in NJ any attempt to raise money is met with complaints that the Church is “all about money”...
There are always going to be people who have that attitude. However, the more parishioners are involved in the parish, the more they are likely to donate. Financial support is a result of spiritual and social engagement. Building this takes the right approach and *time*.
Up here (unfortunately) many people view the Church as they do the State; what can they get out of it? If a parish school with 80 students closes, a number of people leave the parish and never return; they may go to another one, but their giving days are over.
Our hierarchy hasn’t set a good example here, and they are reaping what they’ve sown.
I sympathize! Thinking of yourself and what you can get is human nature, unassisted by grace. Unfortunately, the government at all levels encourages it. A lot of people don’t get the idea of being a contributor to a group project (so to speak) as opposed to being a recipient of services that *someone* has paid for, but not you.
Consider all the people planning to vote for Bernie Sanders!
“Yes, there is one true church that is one holy catholic and apostolic. “
Ah, but you don’t belong to the “holy catholic”, but instead to the roman catholic church.
If you ever notice Satan is a counterfeiter.
Full Definition of counterfeit
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: made in imitation of something else with intent to deceive : forged <counterfeit money
So you must be God pontificating -— err just another heresy.
May the Holy Spirit open your heart and mind with the Truth.
Many, if not all of these things mentioned has also happened to my church (Wesleyan denomination). I started there in ‘81 and much in the area has changed.
While it was a predominately white, older church - it had a very large percentage of youth. As they grew up, married - they moved away - to the suburbs, and found a new, larger churchs there.
We were a slowly dying church; also filled with the older folks who lived in the area.
After slowly losing members to death, things down the road didn’t look to rosy.
After much searching around for answers, things began to happen.
A mostly black church that was meeting in a storefront, in an almost abandoned strip mall, was invited to use our building. It has worked out well, even though they lost some members. “Felt like we moved to Mayberry!” was the reason. ;^)
We now have a Hispanic (pentacostal) group that meets in our fellowship hall.
We’ve have had combined services throughout the year that are quite ell attended.
When we old, white, folks finally die off; GOD will STILL have a place in the neighborhood!
Let HIS kingdom grow!
Which if equating the visible unholy Catholic amalgam of tares and wheat as being one and the same as the corporate body of Christ of 100% believers is blasphemous.
Our mission is to baptize and spread the Word of God. We are not the judge of sinners or non believers, as that is God’s role.
That is simply not Scriptural, as the spreading the Word of God includes judging of sinners and non believers:
The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. (John 7:7)
Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: (Acts 2:23)
But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; (Acts 3:14)
And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: (Acts 14:15)
And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee. (Acts 24:25)
Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. (1 Thessalonians 2:16)
You may believe in your own church or your own fallible views of religion as certainly man has created many churches over the years separate from the one founded by Jesus Christ. The man made churches may do many good things in spreading the Word of God, but do not always follow the teachings of Jesus.
And what is the basis for your assurance that this one true church is uniquely today that which was founded by Jesus Christ, and always follows the teachings of Jesus. Which is much the opposite, while i come short also.
AMEN!
You’re right; they did it twice with Obama as well. While NJ is facing tough times economically, it is nice to see the areas where residents contribute little to nothing suffering the most. They complain about lack of police or snow removal, but don’t want to kick in for either.
They sacrifice their own young to have a life of idle leisure...
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