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Dear Christians, If You Vote For A Godless Man, You Are Asking For Tyranny
The Blaze ^ | 1-19-2016 | Matt Walsh

Posted on 01/27/2016 11:27:33 AM PST by paladinan

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To: paladinan

You dont need to be a Christian to be a conservative. End of discussion. If that is the type of crap you want to push, then you lose lots of people with similar goals for no other reason than to be a self-righteous gate-keeper.


41 posted on 01/27/2016 12:27:43 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
So we should all just shut up, not vote in the Primary because Trump will win the R-ino nomination, and have Sanders as Prez then right? Your post is moral relativism at it’s finest.

Irony, thy name is "Roman_War_Criminal." Where on earth are you getting all that (above)?

I wrote to say that we need to hold to the objective truth of God, whereas you apparently take exception to that idea. Perhaps you might look up the definition of "moral relativism", and get back to me?

42 posted on 01/27/2016 12:30:05 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan

Tell me why “god” would oppose one fool for another as the leader of a pagan nation?


43 posted on 01/27/2016 12:36:39 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Amnesty advocates call me "Tio Tomas")
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To: VanDeKoik
You dont need to be a Christian to be a conservative.

Right... but all the good things about conservatism are good because they align with the Law of God. Period.

If that is the type of crap you want to push,

You, and many others, seem to be reading that idea into my post, and into the original article. I don't see why. I'm arguing for the EXISTENCE of an absolute truth, and that God is the One Who has it, and that He has revealed it to us through His Son, Jesus Christ. That's not fluff, or fairy tale, or dreamland; that's as much of a cold, hard fact as is the multiplication table. Atheists who "inherit" true beliefs do so by virtue of the fact that God gave it to them (either directly, through inspiration/guidance, or indirectly, through ancestors and/or remnants in the culture, and through logic/sane reason). One doesn't have to be a believer in order to hold true beliefs; one merely needs God (and, by extension, Christianity) in order for those true things to exist in the first place. then you lose lots of people with similar goals for no other reason than to be a self-righteous gate-keeper.

44 posted on 01/27/2016 12:38:53 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan
My point is that there is such a thing as objective truth... above and beyond any political movement, any personal opinion, any vote, any constitution, etc.

I am coming to believe that Pragmatism is seen some sort of enhancement that one can simply add to Conservatism; that it adds a necessary power that is lacking.

Pragmatism works without the need for moral absolutes. They are irrelevant.

It is a good reminder to check to see if we are still anchored to our principles.

45 posted on 01/27/2016 12:42:20 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Tell me why “god” would oppose one fool for another as the leader of a pagan nation?

I take it you don't believe in Him. All right.

NOWHERE did I say that God "endorses" (so to speak) any given candidate. Christianity teaches PRINCIPLES, not CANDIDATES. Christianity teaches, for example, that so-called "gay marriage" is wrong, and that abortion is a particularly callous and evil sort of murder. It also says that we can never will any evil, even if some good would allegedly result. (Look up the "principle of double-effect" for details about how to parse that out in situations where some evil effects are unavoidable.) It also says that fighting such objective moral evils takes precedence over ANY worldly concerns. No one is morally justified in supporting (or even dismissing as an issue) abortion, even if the cost is the complete destruction of the United States.

Does that sound extreme? God was here long before the USA existed; He's be here long after the USA is gone. Our Founding Fathers would never have supported "USA, right or wrong---USA, at any cost!"; they knew that the USA was supposed to be "one nation, under God"... not "one God, under the USA". The second is idolatry, plain and simple.

46 posted on 01/27/2016 12:47:39 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan

Vote Trump.


47 posted on 01/27/2016 12:50:18 PM PST by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: paladinan

This is an election for a President, NOT a priest or minister.


48 posted on 01/27/2016 12:52:18 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: dfwgator

Amen and second it.


49 posted on 01/27/2016 12:55:28 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl
This is an election for a President, NOT a priest or minister.

So... only priests and ministers need to be moral human beings? They're the only people on whose virtue we should insist?

Given that priests and ministers are largely helpless to enact changes in the civic/political sphere, that means you seem to be indifferent to whether the country supports good or evil, politically!

What's your alternative, exactly?

50 posted on 01/27/2016 12:58:03 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan

Only God reads hearts.


51 posted on 01/27/2016 1:00:32 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl
This is an election for a President, NOT a priest or minister.

The questions being raised go way deeper than that simplicity. What restraints does a man place upon himself? Why?

52 posted on 01/27/2016 1:01:10 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: paladinan
I don't mean to offend Trump fans, but...

That's a world-class bit of hypocrisy right there.

53 posted on 01/27/2016 1:01:22 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: paladinan

Pray for the CONVERSION of all to Christ!


54 posted on 01/27/2016 1:02:41 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: BipolarBob
Beat me to it. I will not vote for Hillary. The only one I would even consider not voting for would be Jeb. Otherwise the Republicans can run a stale Tuna Sandwich and I'll vote for it.
55 posted on 01/27/2016 1:03:12 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: don-o

What it means is that no one is perfect.


56 posted on 01/27/2016 1:04:00 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: paladinan

At least Trump doesn’t think that he’s running for Supreme Being.


57 posted on 01/27/2016 1:05:59 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dforest

Amen to that.


58 posted on 01/27/2016 1:06:19 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: paladinan

Gods grace is sufficient in Jesus Christ alone.

See tag line.

I will vote for Cruz but, this is a very poor tactic on the Cruz campaigns part.

All it does is raise the hackles of pigs.

God uses all types of ‘rulers’ to bring his ends.


59 posted on 01/27/2016 1:07:10 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Another, “I will only vote for Jesus himself” voter?


Jesus wasn’t a natural born citizen.


60 posted on 01/27/2016 1:09:57 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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