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To: mlizzy

Explains the utter hatred one sees directed toward Our Lady. Sad. Prayers up.


129 posted on 01/17/2016 6:32:46 PM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: Bigg Red
Explains the utter hatred one sees directed toward Our Lady.

What utter hatred?

Is it utter hatred simply to stick true to what Scripture states someone and not embellish it?

137 posted on 01/17/2016 6:47:13 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Bigg Red
Explains the utter hatred one sees directed toward Our Lady.

Cries of *hatred* are the last resort of one losing an debate, FWIW.

138 posted on 01/17/2016 6:47:50 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Bigg Red

When one resorts to playing the hatred card you’ve lost the argument.


141 posted on 01/17/2016 6:59:19 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Bigg Red
Explains the utter hatred one sees directed toward Our Lady.

Which can ONLY be explained by the utter audacity that Rome has had in making up these tales about her in the first place!

152 posted on 01/17/2016 7:45:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bigg Red
Explains the utter hatred one sees directed toward Our Lady. Sad. Prayers up.

How can you utter such a perverse conclusion? That is no more valid than a Mormon saying we hate Christ because we reprove its extrascriptural and contrascriptural teachings on Him! By

your measure it could be said that it is the Mary of Scripture that Catholics hate since they insist on making here into an almost almighty demigodess. And is a cultist was attacking the character of the Scriptural Mary then i would also want to earnestly contend against them, as i did with a salon.com atheist who made Mary the subject of "cosmic rape!"

Now go search the Scriptures (Acts 17:11) and find where:

Any other intercessor in Heaven btwn God and man for him to come to is named except Christ.

Anyone prayed to anyone else in Heaven but the Lord, out of approx. 200 prayers (pagans excepted).

Anyone but God is shown to have the ability to regularly hear from Heaven all the prayers addressed to them and respond (false gods excepted).

Anyone kneeling before a statute and praying to the one it represented (pagans excepted) appears.

There is any sanction of kneeling before a NT believer in praise and adulation and beseeching such for heavenly favor.

Any NT believer is already bodily resurrected and crowned in Heaven.

Any man or women except Christ is said to be sinless, despite the Holy Spirit characteristically mentioning extraordinary aspects of subjects in Scripture, from excess age, to excess fingers, to excess strength, exceptional fasts and other miracles, to exceptional speed, to strange diet, to exceptional holiness, to sinlessness.

Any marriage btwn men and women of procreative ability is shown that was not consummated.

Mary arraigned the marriage in Jn. 2. and persisted in conversation until she obtained what she sought.

Or where Scripture teaches of a Mary:

whose [Mary] merits we are saved by,

who "had to suffer, as He did, all the consequences of sin,"

and was bodily assumed into Heaven, which is a fact (unsubstantiated in Scripture or even early Tradition) because the Roman church says it is, and "was elevated to a certain affinity with the Heavenly Father,"

and whose power now "is all but unlimited,"

for indeed she "seems to have the same power as God,"

"surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven,"

so that "the Holy Spirit acts only by the Most Blessed Virgin, his Spouse."

and that “sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus,"

for indeed saints have "but one advocate," and that is Mary, who "alone art truly loving and solicitous for our salvation,"

Moreover, "there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose,"

and who has "authority over the angels and the blessed in heaven,"

including "assigning to saints the thrones made vacant by the apostate angels,"

whom the good angels "unceasingly call out to," greeting her "countless times each day with 'Hail, Mary,' while prostrating themselves before her, begging her as a favour to honour them with one of her requests,"

and who (obviously) cannot "be honored to excess,"

and who is (obviously) the glory of Catholic people, whose "honor and dignity surpass the whole of creation

Sources and more.

191 posted on 01/18/2016 6:32:45 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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