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Biblical Basics about Mother Mary -- A Homily for the Second Sunday of the Year
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-16-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/17/2016 6:42:01 AM PST by Salvation

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To: verga
Actually I have learned less than nothing.

Finally!

Past Step One!!

301 posted on 01/19/2016 12:14:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga

Hello narses


302 posted on 01/19/2016 12:17:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
Non-Catholic is general term that has been accepted in the past

Hatred seems to being a word favored by one side in this 'debate'.

303 posted on 01/19/2016 12:18:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
"Again; what evidence do you bring to the jury's attention to give support to your claim here?"

They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they cast him out. (John 9:34)

304 posted on 01/19/2016 12:18:51 AM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: omegatoo
No one has ever said that we HAVE TO to go through Mary to get to Christ.

Then why do so MANY Catholics waste their time with her?

305 posted on 01/19/2016 12:19:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: omegatoo
Then why do so MANY Catholics waste their time with her?

They SURELY didn't come up with this idea on their own!!!

306 posted on 01/19/2016 12:20:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: omegatoo
Is this a belief of all Protestants, that there are no saints that can pray for us in heaven?

I can't speak for ALL; just me.

There are no saints that can pray for us in heaven.


307 posted on 01/19/2016 12:21:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NYer
Jesus did not say, "My flesh is of no avail." He said, "The flesh is of no avail."

Mother of Jesus. Jesus is GOD. Get it?

308 posted on 01/19/2016 12:41:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
That is a denigrating statement and you should report yourself to the Religion Moderator.

"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours." — Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema. — Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1

309 posted on 01/19/2016 12:43:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
You have been here long enough to know that CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP MARY.

ALL of them??


 
 
 
Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

310 posted on 01/19/2016 12:44:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: omegatoo
Praying for someone is a form of mediation, which is what we ask Mary to do for us.

Mary is dead.

Ask your neighbor to pray for you.

311 posted on 01/19/2016 12:45:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
... it's usually still in the last place I put it. I just look for it. :-)

Not at MY house!

Gremlins move things around just to aggravate me!

312 posted on 01/19/2016 12:46:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Syncro
If we are to take Mary's words to heart...

"Do what HE tells you..."


Rome would have us believe that SHE has to return to earth; multiple times; to tell the 'faithful' what to do!


http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2015/12/virgin-mary-text

313 posted on 01/19/2016 12:50:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Gremlins move things around just to aggravate me!

Yes, gremlins can sometimes mess things up, just to get our goat. Just make sure you don't necromancy with any of them. It is forbidden, and it is evil.

:-)

314 posted on 01/19/2016 1:27:49 AM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: Elsie
Der's a whole lot of written goin on out der.

:-)

315 posted on 01/19/2016 1:44:03 AM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: Syncro
Are you about to have a Matt 10:14 moment?

:-)

316 posted on 01/19/2016 2:03:46 AM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: omegatoo
Catholics are not ‘all about Mary’ either, but we do hold her up, as we do other saints, as someone to emulate and to confide in.

What? Why not Jesus? Isn't He good enough?

Or do Catholics think that He's not approachable?

Or maybe He's too busy or has to many other important hings to do than pay attention or be bothered by all our concerns and troubles?

317 posted on 01/19/2016 3:30:11 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: omegatoo
Kneeling before a statue does not constitute worship any more than kneeling before your beloved to propose constitutes worship.

Seems that God would disagree with you.

In the OT kneeling before a statue is considered worship by Him.

Besides, even if Catholics want to play word games and claim that what looks like worship to everyone observing isn't REALLY worship, it's still breaking the second commandment.

You can argue til the cows come home about the meanings of words but actions are objectively observed.

Exodus 20:4-6 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Bowing down is bowing down.

318 posted on 01/19/2016 3:34:37 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; BlueDragon; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; ...
Feel free to post evidence that states the Scriptures; that Rome assembled; are INADEQUATE for a person's salvation and way of life.

I'll get the popcorn ready......

319 posted on 01/19/2016 3:36:39 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; omegatoo
>>Kneeling before a statue does not constitute worship any more than kneeling before your beloved to propose constitutes worship.<<

Of all the excuses catholics have offered up to deny they worship Mary, this is one of the weakest.

Next, they'll be saying pictures of mom/dad/kids are no different.....oh wait....they already claim that also.

We have the examples in the NT when John fell before the angel in Revelation and was told to get up.

8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9But he said to me, “Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God.” Rev 22:8-9 NASB

Same when Cornelius fell before Peter.

25When Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell at his feet and worshiped him. 26But Peter raised him up, saying, “Stand up; I too am just a man.” Acts 10:25-26 NASB

320 posted on 01/19/2016 4:48:28 AM PST by ealgeone
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