Posted on 12/31/2015 4:29:48 PM PST by NYer
I do KNOW that they do NOT agree completely.
I am more familiar with the Maronite Catholic Church than I am with any of the others.
The following statement from the website of St. Raymond’s Maronite Cathedral in St. Louis describes the relationship among the various Catholic churches that are in communion with each other.
“Saint Raymond’s Maronite Cathedral is one of the Catholic Churches in Saint Louis, Missouri. However, we are very unique in several respects from our sister churches here in Saint Louis.
“Many of our parishioners are of Arabic or Lebanese descent. You will find many families came over from the Middle East throughout the past 100 years. However, being Lebanese is not a requirement and anyone who loves our ancient Maronite tradition is encouraged to join our church.
“We have a unique Liturgy compared to our sister churches. While our Liturgical Language is Aramic, our church has both English and Arabic Speakers. If you only speak English or only Arabic you should have no trouble participating in our Liturgy.
“We are of the Maronite Tradition. Fully Catholic but different from Roman Catholic, but in full communion with Rome. Meaning that Roman Catholics can fully participate in our Mass and receive the Eucharist.
“The Maronite Church is one of many churches which are from Eastern and Western Catholic traditions.
“Catholic: Member of one holy apostolic church.
“Western: Originating in the ancient see of Rome
“Eastern: Originating in ancient sees of Antioch, Alexandria and Constantinople
“As Jesus commissioned the apostles to go into the world and make disciples of all nations, the early church grew and spread out from Jerusalem. It experienced other traditions, cultures, customs, languages, art forms, architecture and music. Eastern and Western Christians expressed the same basic truths of their Catholic faith in unique ways and worshiped differently.
“There are over 750 million Catholics (Eastern and Western) in the world. Nearly 2 million Catholics of the Eastern Churches live in the United States.
“All Catholics share three important things:
- Apostolic Faith
- Mysteries/Sacraments
- Unity with Pope (Successor of Peter)
“A Church is not the same as a rite. Within the Catholic Church there are 22 autonomous churches, each of which follows one of the 6 major rites.”
http://straymondsmaronitecathedral.com/page10.php
Here’s another statement, this from the website of Nativity Ukrainian Church in Eugene, OR.
“Ukrainian Catholic Church
“Eastern Christianity took a firm root in Ukraine in 989 when Vladimir, Prince of Kiev, embraced the Christian Faith and was baptized. Soon afterwards many missionaries from the Byzantine Empire arrived, having been sent by the Patriarch of Constantinople to preach the Gospel.
“When the Church of Rome and the Church of Constantinople severed ties with one another in the 11th century, the Church in Ukraine gradually followed suit and finally gave up the bonds of unity with Rome. When Ukrainian Orthodox bishops met at a council in Brest-Litovsk in 1595, seven bishops decided to re-establish communion with Rome. Guaranteed that their Byzantine tradition and Liturgy would be respected and recognized by Rome, they and many priests and lay faithful were re-united with the See of Rome, while others continued to remain Orthodox.
“In the 19th century many Ukrainian Catholics began to emigrate to North America, bringing their pastors, traditions and liturgy to Canada and the United States. Under Communist rule, Catholics in Ukraine were persecuted, with many being imprisoned and murdered; in 1945 all the Ukrainian Catholic bishops were arrested or killed.
“Today the Ukrainian Catholic Church is the largest Eastern Catholic Church, with about 5 million faithful. It is led by His Beatitude Sviatoslav (Shevchuk), Major Archbishop of Kyiv-Galicia. His election was confirmed by Pope Benedict XVI on 25 March 2011.”
They are just as different as the 30,000 Protestant denominations that you guys say exist...
And he knew her not till she brought forth her first born son: and he called his name Jesus.
What interpretation??? It have a third grade Granddaughter who could understand that verse as it's written...It doesn't need any interpretation...
Obviously you mean you don't believe what it says...Or probably you don't care what it says, you go with what your religion wants it to say...
But yes, that verse alone destroys the false idea that Mary was a perpetual virgin...
Doesn't matter how long you hold your hands over your eyes and scream that you can't see it, it means what it says...
Selah
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That's a false claim by you...
So if Protestants did that, they’d be counted as different denominations and used as an example of the short comings of sola Scripture, part of that alleged 30,000 different denominations because of allegedly 30,000 different interpretations of Scripture,
The rationale being that they split because they interpreted Scripture differently, therefore YOPIOS is not valid.
We should all be under the teaching authority of ONE denomination, which does not allow for doctrinal differences, that you just showed me exist within Catholicism.
The same thing happens, and yet when it’s within Catholicism, it displays the alleged unity of the Catholic faith and when it happens within Protestantism, it shows the alleged inadequacy of depending on Scripture alone and the leading of the Holy Spirit.
That is not consistent to apply two standards to both systems of faith.
ModernCatholicism and Mormonism and Islam have something really simple in common ... their father..
Oh well
***’Born Againers’***
They also call us “the born agains”
It’s their way of calling us Christians, they just don’t know that is what they are doing.
They think they’re dissing us but it’s what Jesus told us what MUST happen for anyone to have eternal life.
They’re mocking the very words of Jesus, which they claim stand above all other written Scripture.
But then again, they disobey other clear, concise commands of Jesus so this is not a surprise to me.
Yeah, I’ve been born again/born from above, which is the same thing, and anyone who has knows it.
If someone is not sure if they’ve been regenerated, then they haven’t.
You cannot have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit and not know it.
I suppose one could quibble on whether or not the different traditions, liturgy, etc., are doctrinal differences, but what is indisputable is that the churches are in communion with one another under the authority of the Pope.
As I hope you know, I am not one of those who point out doctrinal differences among the various Protestant denominations, and I believe many of them do share the same basic truths.
I have attended many Protestant services over the years; services with my Methodist Mom, baptisms of nieces and nephews at Lutheran churches, my sister’s wedding and a cousin’s wedding at Methodist churches, my brother’s wedding and my son’s wedding at Presbyterian churches, my Mom’s funeral at a mortuary, a cousin’s funeral at a Baptist church, dedications for two of my grandkids at a Christian church, and services at different churches that my daughter attended as she was searching for a church. Sure, there were differences, but I was impressed with how, at all of these churches, we were praising the same God in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Peace,
Rich
Yes, I know that you don’t do that.
There are not as many doctrinal differences between Protestant denominations as is presented. I’ve posted the statements of faith of several different Protestant denominations several times and invited Catholics to read them and show us what the differences are and all I ever get are....
***crickets***.
Protestant churches to not see the need to be under one governing body to be in line with Scripture.
And much of what is pointed out as doctrinal differences and has been questioned as differing interpretations, falls under the heading of *disputable matters* that Paul addressed in Romans 14.
God does not demand adherence to one central governing head with one doctrinal statement of faith.
He allows for matters of conscience in areas that are not matters that affect one’s salvation.
So some people can shun dancing and drinking, and others don’t care. But that hardly builds a case against sola Scriptura.
Christians see their unity as being in Christ, not adhering to doctrinal positions.
Christ saved me and that’s all I need to know.
Anyone else He saved is my brother or sister in Christ, regardless of where they choose to fellowship, what denomination they adhere to, whether I even like them or not.
The unity is in a Person, not a belief system.
Keep up the good work.
But what do you write?
Well; if a person is not well grounded in the basics...
Ah...
but that Scripture got written LONG after Onan got the big zot from the sky!
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