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How do you square your Christian faith with hatred of Muslims? (VANITY)
12/9/15 | Hoagy62

Posted on 12/09/2015 10:22:15 PM PST by hoagy62

As one looks at the articles and comments found on Free Republic, you can see the complete and utter loathing, disgust, and outright hatred towards Muslims. It is viewed as a justified hatred, built on the actions Muslims have taken for decades against Americans and others. Notable attacks include the Beirut bombing of the Marine barracks, Beslan in Russia, the recent San Bernadino attack, and of course 9/11.

However, I was challenged by a few friends recently as to how a professing Christian can have a deep-seated hatred for Muslims. They reminded me of Jesus' command to love one another. They pointed out that He wasn't just talking about Christians loving other Christians (which can be difficult sometimes), but about Christians loving people in their communities...even those one may count as an enemy.

It's been pointed out to me that Christ's death on the cross wasn't just for me...it was also for the Muslim. He wants them to come to know Him as their Savior just as much as He wants us...or me...to. The problem they see is that someone won't want to come to know Christ if those who say they're His followers are in your face telling you that they hate you.

When I point out to them about the danger that Muslims have time and time again posed to society, they argue that Jesus didn't care if they were dangerous- He wanted His followers to love them, And, if that love had an element of risk associated with it, His followers were to love them anyway. A reminder of what that looks like can be seen in the story of the Christian men who ended up martyred by the Auca tribe in South America.

In any case, what they said is making me think. I want to know how one can reconcile a hatred for Muslims with Jesus' command to love people. It does seem that you can't do one and do the other as well. Yes...I am aware I may very well be opening up a huge can of worms, but this has been bugging me and I wanted to discuss it with my fellow FReepers.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Islam; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: agape; christianity; dhimmitude; faith; falselove; liberalism; muslims; strawman; vanity
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To: hoagy62

I don’t hate muslims any more than I hate gays. I love them for being lost sheep.

I will not submit to the death cult that is defined by sharia law. That is anti Christian and anti every other religion.

People who want to kill me will meet righteous self defense. Tell your friends tha plenty of God fearing Jews died in the camps because they loved their enemy and did nothing to defend themdelved


61 posted on 12/10/2015 12:59:04 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: hoagy62

My love for them ends where they openly threaten to kill me. I do not know who is who in that respect.
I would witness to a Muslim, sure, but not as a fool who foolishly thinks singing kumbayuh with them and ignoring their evil religion


62 posted on 12/10/2015 1:37:44 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Very good.

FR public bookmarked (not the first time among your own well-considered comments)

63 posted on 12/10/2015 1:45:57 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: hoagy62

I pray that God eradicates Islam, preferably by converting them to Christianity.

(Personally, I think it would be funnier if they were converted to Judaism.)


64 posted on 12/10/2015 1:47:12 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. -- Pope St. Pius X /// Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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To: Olog-hai

Reading this thread has greatly strengthened my Christian faith. Jesus is Lord!


65 posted on 12/10/2015 2:41:31 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: easternsky

Christian faith is not a suicide pact. Who hates them? Attempt to impose guilt.


66 posted on 12/10/2015 2:44:49 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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To: elcid1970

Amen, same here!

Pray for the CONVERSION of ALL to CHRIST!


67 posted on 12/10/2015 2:48:38 AM PST by Biggirl ("Otne Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: hoagy62

When did you stop beating your wife?


68 posted on 12/10/2015 2:49:25 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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To: hoagy62

Mookabookers killed my Nephew in Fallujah.
As a Christian i believe in an eye for an eye.
To hell with em.


69 posted on 12/10/2015 2:52:26 AM PST by Joe Boucher (the only good mooselimb is a dead mooselimb.)
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To: hoagy62

Did Jesus command us to love those that are killing us, our families and our children so they can please Allah? Just asking.


70 posted on 12/10/2015 2:56:20 AM PST by bytesmith
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To: hoagy62

We all fall short...


71 posted on 12/10/2015 3:04:17 AM PST by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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To: hoagy62

I try not to think about it. lol


72 posted on 12/10/2015 3:06:32 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: hoagy62
I remember our Heavenly Father telling us HOW to handle other religions,
how to show the proper reaction to their false gods.
Also: Here's a great example of responding to those followers of FALSE gods.
Jerubbaal and Joash of Judges 6 and Judges 7 are well worth your time.


Muslims are well know for lying about their faith. For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ).

If you want a detailed history of "Mohammed's History" (spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc.) then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!

This Video exposes the "Hidden Truths" and "Goals" behind Radical Islamic Muslims! - (EVEN WORSE);
It's one hour, thirty-two minuites and 26 seconds long, but it's worth your time.
Watch and learn Mohammed's History - Exposing Islam's "Hidden Truths" - Of Radical Muslims.

Also read ISLAM--Religion of Peace?

Click here to view Books by WILLIAM FEDERER from Amazon.com.
73 posted on 12/10/2015 3:10:02 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Dallas59

Yes. This and post 12.


74 posted on 12/10/2015 3:10:34 AM PST by Wasichu
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To: hoagy62

You don’t have to just kneel down and die anytime someone wants to come up and hack off your head. That’s retarded. That’s not Christian.


75 posted on 12/10/2015 3:23:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: hoagy62

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.


76 posted on 12/10/2015 3:29:45 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: hoagy62
Jesus loves Muslims. He loves them enough to die for them as He did for all sinners...including me. Therefore, I do not hate them. However, Romans 13:4 says the government bears the sword to punish the evil doer. And I support that.

As far as your observation of Christians here: well...you're not the first to notice the disconnect between those who claim the name of Christ and their following of His Word. In that respect, they have a lot in common with the so called moderate Mislim. They identify to a religion that they do not follow into inconvenience. They do not pray for their president (that he would be saved) and would rejoice over his fall (something King David refuses to do and instructed against)..

77 posted on 12/10/2015 3:32:39 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: hoagy62

Hatred for Muslims CANNOT be reconciled with Christianity.

Loathing for Islam, which is organized demonic possession, and realistic fear of Muslims, are perfectly consistent with Christianity.

Hatred for Muslims would be marked by the positive desire that Muslims be damned. This is sinful. Muslims should be excluded from the United States as a matter of self-preservation. Muslims who pose an immediate threat to life or limb should, like anyone else, be neutralized, which may necessitate killing them.


78 posted on 12/10/2015 3:36:05 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: hoagy62

I’m getting bored with people who equate opposition as “hatred.”


79 posted on 12/10/2015 3:37:36 AM PST by RavenATB
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To: hoagy62

I don’t hate them.
I just want a bright line separating their subtypes between “freedom of religion” and “enemies foreign and domestic”. Finding that line is not going well.

Yes, I share your concern. I’m seeing too much wanton abandonment of core principles in this matter.


80 posted on 12/10/2015 3:40:08 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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