Posted on 12/09/2015 10:22:15 PM PST by hoagy62
As one looks at the articles and comments found on Free Republic, you can see the complete and utter loathing, disgust, and outright hatred towards Muslims. It is viewed as a justified hatred, built on the actions Muslims have taken for decades against Americans and others. Notable attacks include the Beirut bombing of the Marine barracks, Beslan in Russia, the recent San Bernadino attack, and of course 9/11.
However, I was challenged by a few friends recently as to how a professing Christian can have a deep-seated hatred for Muslims. They reminded me of Jesus' command to love one another. They pointed out that He wasn't just talking about Christians loving other Christians (which can be difficult sometimes), but about Christians loving people in their communities...even those one may count as an enemy.
It's been pointed out to me that Christ's death on the cross wasn't just for me...it was also for the Muslim. He wants them to come to know Him as their Savior just as much as He wants us...or me...to. The problem they see is that someone won't want to come to know Christ if those who say they're His followers are in your face telling you that they hate you.
When I point out to them about the danger that Muslims have time and time again posed to society, they argue that Jesus didn't care if they were dangerous- He wanted His followers to love them, And, if that love had an element of risk associated with it, His followers were to love them anyway. A reminder of what that looks like can be seen in the story of the Christian men who ended up martyred by the Auca tribe in South America.
In any case, what they said is making me think. I want to know how one can reconcile a hatred for Muslims with Jesus' command to love people. It does seem that you can't do one and do the other as well. Yes...I am aware I may very well be opening up a huge can of worms, but this has been bugging me and I wanted to discuss it with my fellow FReepers.
could be, might, maybe, all fuzzy words that mean, in the final analysis; not much.
I prefer the logic that words literally mean things.
ONLY them?
Wouldn't THIS be more correct:
. . . common accepted mode of people in this period of history was, at one's personal pleasure, to carry a side-arm . . .
Oh, LC, you are always on the uptake, glad you're headed for the intake, and you always have a response on the outtake.
Again, I appreciate your broader vision, but in this case, so far he is giving the command to his disciples, not to the whole world of people, wouldn't you say?
The whole world wasn't invited to the Last Supper, AFIK. But you have a good point.
I think I hate them even more after reading your post.
Look, I guess I’m not a very good Christian, because I have no use for Muslims nor the thing in the White House. I understand that Jesus died for everyone, including Muslims, and we are to bring the Gospel to them....when and if it is possible.
But it doesn’t seem possible to do so when they are raving, slavering animals who will run at you with a machete and take off your head in broad daylight in the middle of the street. Jesus didn’t expect us to be sheep to the slaughter.
IMO Islam is a demonic cult, and its adherents are possessed by demons. It’s hard to lump them in with the rest of humanity.
I hate them (Muslims). If they, the Muslims, believe in Islam and all it teaches, then yeah I hate them as much as I hate their ideology. Maybe more, because their ideology is nothing if it has no followers. The followers are the ones who act on what the ideology promotes.
Mohammed was an evil pervert. Anyone who follows him has some screws loose at the very least.
So yeah, I hate them.
“All the crazies have to be killed and the rest brought to heel
We are not the first to face this but even though weâre the strongest materially we are by far the weakest of heart and mind”
Exactly. The only peace in Islam is because all those who oppose have been murdered or converted/brought to heel.
And sadly, the majority in this country seem to be weak when it comes to this.
I hate Islam and those who follow it.
The left considers themselves so bright and educated
Are they unaware the 1400 years of Islam and how it’s gone?
I prefer to give radical Muslims testimony as last rites
More effective that way
My son is friends online with many soldiers all over the world fighting fundie dune âªoons
The Serbs who have fought them for a millennium have links to truly horrible stuff
That poor Christian girl hell they uploaded that....they are proud of their work
These people have to be destroyed and other Muslims have to be scared of us
It’s the only way
This assholio in the White House hates us and our history as much as the Islamists do
Maybe more
Imagine....we are being governed by our enemy
A Left this maniacal will never be defeated by ballots
So many folks often fail to see these things; and want to take most every thing told to THE CHOSEN PEOPLE and try to make it a requirement for ALL.
(Acts 15 illustrates it...)
I've read something similar; where was it??
Oh yeah...
Matthew 24
15 "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place " (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
I think of muslims pretty much like dog poop.
I only hate it when it on my shoe.
Otherwise, I keep a keen eye out for it.
i expect pope francis to declare muslims to be his neighbors and condemn trump’s immigration plan. then hillary will declare herself to be a pope francis catholic - love trumps hate and anger.
Hillary is already a Pope Francis Catholic. As is Nancy Pelosi.
Pope Francis is a huckster. A knee-jerk political Leftist who hates the Catholic Church. He takes his orders from the totalitarians who control, among other institutions, the U.N.
We have, simultaneously, a “President” who hates the United States and a Pope who hates the Catholic Church.
So many folks often fail to see these things; . . .
Like 2 Chronicles 7:14?
"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
(Cyrus Ingerson Schofield in his "Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth" shows clearly this does not apply to America.)
“This assholio in the White House hates us and our history as much as the Islamists do. Maybe more”
That’s a fact and one that is completely missed by the brainless GOP faction who think that Barky is just another Democrat playing at politics like they do.
I don’t think many are aware and those who are aware think it won’t happen here or to them/those they care about.
Conservatives, republicans and libertarians, aren’t getting the message across to the public. We have no presence in the media (tv, movies, news, talk shows) or in education (public, private, parochial).
Our schools are teaching (and have been teaching for 40+ years) everything the Left is promoting. TV shows and movies have been promoting the Left Agenda (socialism/communism/globalism) since forever and we have no alternative that gets any traction.
As for education, the left agenda realized that high school students weren’t malleable so they tried with middle school students. Middle school students tend to be a bit more malleable. But, not enough. So then they went for elementary - and early elementary and pre-school...and they are succeeding there. The TV shows, etc. that are geared toward early elementary and elementary students are also succeeding in their message.
I don’t think the Left is unaware...I think it fits with their Agenda. There’s a video out, of the mass illegal muslim immigration in Europe and a Jewish woman, founder of PAIDEIA, claiming the transformation of Europe with muslims benefits the Jews and Jews being a leader in this transformation. Barbara Lerner Spectre http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/11/watch-anti-migrant-video-going-viral-across-europe/
And again, Brigitte Gabrielhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFO1AtjoUoo
Not many are listening.
If...
If the people were IsraELites, and the land was Eretz Israel . . .
Washington State. Please tell us all, how you truly believe how Our Nation, should rebuilt?
We used to mhave a very solid foundation; but we’ve vastly expanded out upon the sand of the ‘well watered plain’.
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