Posted on 12/01/2015 9:56:27 AM PST by amorphous
ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE, November 30, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- On the plane returning from his journey to Africa today Pope Francis made his clearest remarks in condemnation of 'fundamentalist' Catholics.
"Fundamentalism is a sickness that is in all religions," Francis said, as reported by the National Catholic Reporter's Vatican correspondent, Joshua McElwee, and similarly by other journalists on the plane. "We Catholics have some -- and not some, many -- who believe in the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil."
"They do evil," said the pope. "I say this because it is my church."
"We have to combat it," he said. "Religious fundamentalism is not religious, because it lacks God. It is idolatry, like the idolatry of money."
Turning to Islam, the pope spoke of his friendship with a Muslim, adding, "You cannot cancel out a religion because there are some groups, or many groups in a certain point of history, of fundamentalists."
"Like everything, there are religious people with values and those without," he said. "But how many wars ... have Christians made? The sacking of Rome was not done by Muslims, eh?"
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I’m a Southern Baptist, but still I miss B16.
The sacking of Constantinople was, eh?
The Vandals and Goths were Christians???
I pray DAILY for Pope Benedict XVI.
I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't focus much attention on Benedict XVI.I suspect it's distinctly possible that he was a good,or even outstanding,Pope and I just don't realize it.
He goes way beyond being a leftist to being a postmodern relativist. He is essentially saying that "God" is relative to whatever a given collective at any given point in time wants him to be. He does not believe in the immutability of God or an objective God at all. This goes against 2000 years of Catholic dogma regarding the nature of God. I can say this as a Protestant because both Protestant and Catholic dogma on the innate nature of God is identical; as is Jewish dogma in this regard. A relativistic "god" is meaningless and ultimately nothing but idolatry.
Sorry Mrs. Don-o, but I wonder if Pope Francis is even in the atmosphere, much less the weeds, as is what you're describing.
Respectfully, IMO, he is ignorant of Islam. He needs to study it as closely as he claims to have studied the problem of 'global-warming' and he needs to read Isaiah 5:20.
No, what Francis is doing here is attacking the notion of objective truth and ultimately an objective, immutable God. This is rank idolatry.
This pretty wise man on the subject for one:
I also subscribed to the “he’s a Jesuit” idea. Maybe you are correct but I remember a Jesuit priest at Mass years ago. His homily was bizarre to say the least. We all left church shaking our heads. We talked to a number of people on the way out and we all concluded that if we followed his advice it didn’t matter if we were Christian, Hindu, or no religion. Bizarre is not strong enough. We couldn’t believe it.
>> Wow, I hesitate to criticize any man of God.
Me too, which is why I have no qualms whatsoever about attacking Francis.
Where’s the hurl alert?
Would John the Baptist have been labeled as a “fundamentalist”? Or how about St. Thomas Aquinas? Or St. Vincent de Paul?
I think I'd rather hang with those guys than the Christian “superficialists” that seem to be en vogue these days!
Yes.
Wow, just wow! Following the words of God is a sickness to this Pope? Is that not the definition of your supposed job?
If the religion is evil then fundamentalism is a problem I guess if you are that much of an idiot not to see the real problem is the evil taught by an evil religion.
Sorry, Pope the Amish are not a sickness, there is a beauty in their lives. Islam is though, their is a sickness throughout all their societies, a sickness that murders and enslaves. Stupid, illogical, evil, socialist, propagandist Pope.
Somebody really explain to me what happened to the last Pope that he resigned and left the Catholic church with this evil?
Fundamentalist Christians aren’t killing people, but fundamentalist Muslims are.
The difference is the ideology/religion, not the secularism of the practitioners.
Spin the implications of this comment.
This Pope is dangerous. Wake up and may God bless you.
This clown pope suffers from a mental disease that affects all leftists: he has rectitus.
This is a disease that originates in the anus, travels up the spine to the optic nerve giving the sufferer a shi—y outlook on everything.
What a disgrace to Catholicism. He is, however, riding the crest of the wave in this new religion created subsequent to the evil Vatican II.
He's just as sane as any other Narcissist mired in Liberal illogicality and experiencing megalomaniacal delusions.
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Shock! Pope Francis unequivocally condemns tens of millions worldwide!
"Too bad those tens of millions are involved in a perfectly legitimate enterprise that has long been found as perfectly justifiable by the Church. That's how it reads to me, anyway, when he indulged in this...I have to call it a rant...today at Casa Santa Marta. So apparently fornicators, adulterers, and even sodomites are beyond judgment, but those involved in the defense of nations....cursed..."
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