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Pope Francis – “Fundamentalism is a Sickness”
LifeSiteNews ^ | 30 Nov 2015 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/01/2015 9:56:27 AM PST by amorphous

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE, November 30, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- On the plane returning from his journey to Africa today Pope Francis made his clearest remarks in condemnation of 'fundamentalist' Catholics.

"Fundamentalism is a sickness that is in all religions," Francis said, as reported by the National Catholic Reporter's Vatican correspondent, Joshua McElwee, and similarly by other journalists on the plane. "We Catholics have some -- and not some, many -- who believe in the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil."

"They do evil," said the pope. "I say this because it is my church."

"We have to combat it," he said. "Religious fundamentalism is not religious, because it lacks God. It is idolatry, like the idolatry of money."

Turning to Islam, the pope spoke of his friendship with a Muslim, adding, "You cannot cancel out a religion because there are some groups, or many groups in a certain point of history, of fundamentalists."

"Like everything, there are religious people with values and those without," he said. "But how many wars ... have Christians made? The sacking of Rome was not done by Muslims, eh?"

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: francis; fundamentalism; pope; truth
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"We Catholics have some -- and not some, many -- who believe in the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil."

Wow, I hesitate to criticize any man of God. But I have an urge to say that while Pope Francis may be leading his flock through turbulent times, I see how he may well be the last Pope to do so. No disrespect to Catholic brothers or sisters intended - all religions have had their share of 'defective' leaders.

And you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free. John 8: 32

1 posted on 12/01/2015 9:56:27 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

This Pope is heterodox.


2 posted on 12/01/2015 9:57:27 AM PST by Genoa
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To: amorphous

In addition to being oxymoronic in his main message, one needs to ask is this guy sane?


3 posted on 12/01/2015 9:58:40 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: amorphous

The Pope is desperately making more stupid and insane remarks daily.

Is he trying to out-stupid our President?


4 posted on 12/01/2015 9:59:32 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: amorphous

And here I thought socialism was a sickness. A socialist pope the sickest of all.


5 posted on 12/01/2015 10:00:27 AM PST by cyberstoic
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To: amorphous

Since Jesus is the fundamental standard (ie. an absolute) then Jesus was a fundamentalist. What the Pope is ultimately saying is that Jesus is not a Christian as the Pope understands Christianity and moreover that Jesus was “doing evil.” Jesus believed in absolute truth and in the High Holy Prayer he defined it as God’s word. “Your word is truth”


6 posted on 12/01/2015 10:00:45 AM PST by circlecity
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To: amorphous

He is a total leftist. How sad for Catholics.


7 posted on 12/01/2015 10:01:00 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: amorphous

This is nothing less than a direct assault on Bible believing Christians.

A Christian fundamentalist is the polar opposite to the Islamic fundamentalist, just as the Bible is opposite to the Koran.

The authors of the books are opposite.


8 posted on 12/01/2015 10:01:16 AM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: amorphous
So what does "fundamentalism" in Catholicism look like? Not eating meat on Fridays? Wearing a suit or a dress to Mass on Sunday? Saying "Merry Christmas" in December rather than "Happy Holidays"?

I don't know about anyone else but John Paul II is *my* Pope.

9 posted on 12/01/2015 10:01:18 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: amorphous

Does this Pope believe in anything?He sounds like just another “gotta go along to get along” guy.


10 posted on 12/01/2015 10:01:47 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Genoa
This Pope is heterodox.

I don't consider that a bad thing unless it also falls outside of scripture, as is the case here.

11 posted on 12/01/2015 10:02:36 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

As a Catholic, I have been presuming that Francis says the things he says because he is a Jesuit. However, after this statement, I have to conclude that either Francis is suffering from some form of dementia, or he is ignorant of both Catholic doctrine and world history. In any case, he truly is a disaster.


12 posted on 12/01/2015 10:07:38 AM PST by CdMGuy
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To: circlecity

Was the Pope sitting next to Obama during the “Reverend” Wright years? WTF, over?


13 posted on 12/01/2015 10:08:30 AM PST by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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To: CdMGuy
or he is ignorant...

That's the impression that I get.

14 posted on 12/01/2015 10:11:55 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

For criticizing this Pope during his US visit, I took some flack from Catholics whose feelings were hurt. I don’t blame them; they thought I was stepping on their faith.
Truly, he is stepping on their faith.


15 posted on 12/01/2015 10:14:27 AM PST by Calpublican (Boehner minus the alcohol andThey range spray tan= Ryan.)
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To: amorphous

The parallels between this Pope and Obama are uncanny.

They are both on a mission to destroy the respective entities that they lead.

And what a contrast from just a generation ago when Reagan and John Paul were the staunch defenders of the West.


16 posted on 12/01/2015 10:15:19 AM PST by aquila48
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To: CdMGuy

I’ve been wondering how many Catholics are going to follow this man off the cliff because he is the pope.

How does the average Catholic cope with a situation like this?


17 posted on 12/01/2015 10:16:06 AM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: amorphous
"I say this because it is my church."

Say what?

18 posted on 12/01/2015 10:16:22 AM PST by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: semaj

The fellow is a lefty LOON.


19 posted on 12/01/2015 10:17:35 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: circlecity; amorphous
"The Fundamentals" was a multi-volume series of books published by a Bible Institute in the U.S. --- "The Fundamentals," WIKI Link --- about 100 years ago which covered basic Christan doctrine.

The term "Fundamentalist" in the United States derives, historically, from that.

So, there's a definition problem here. POpe Francis isn't using (whatever-word-in-Italian) "fundamentalist" to mean, in the American Protestant sense, somebody to believes in the doctrinal positions explained and defended in "The Fundamentals."

I don't think that outside of the USA,the use of the word "fundamentalist" is even known in this sense. In the rest of the world, it just means the equivalent of fanatic/zealot/extremist/nut.

The word in that sense is applied not just to Protestants, but to Catholics and Orthodox (who might have different, contrasting doctrinal points) and also Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Marxists, Vegetarians, -- it means a person who has a kind of monomaniaal attachment to some ideology.

So although Pope Francis certainly does say very dubious things from time to time, IN THIS CASE he is not insulting Protestantism or Evangelicalism per se.

20 posted on 12/01/2015 10:18:17 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Kyrie eleison (40x))
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