Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Steelfish
John 3:16 says otherwise.

Where does Jesus ever say Mary is the mother of all of us??

7 posted on 11/06/2015 11:44:05 AM PST by ealgeone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]


To: ealgeone
Where does Jesus ever say Mary is the mother of all of us??

Nowhere but that has never bothered the Catholic church before.

13 posted on 11/06/2015 11:53:35 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Now I understand why my grandparents quit voting.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]

To: ealgeone

That’s precisely the problem with Bible-Christians. The Bible did not drop from the skies and self assemble themselves in the order in which they were found. It is the Catholic Church through its early Church fathers and theologians labored for some three centuries sorting out various fragments of writings, and gave us what we now call the Bible- the authoritative word of God. They did this by relying on the oral tradition. That Divine authority did not vanish with the curse of the Reformation that washed ashore more than a century and half later that gave us every imaginable and contorted form of Protestantism.

The very John you cite said in 21: 25

“But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.”

The oral tradition tells us that without Mary’s intercession, and belief in the written and oral words that instruct on the Holy Eucharist, there is no salvation.


25 posted on 11/06/2015 12:19:33 PM PST by Steelfish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]

To: ealgeone

>> When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, “Woman, here is the son of you,” and to the disciple, “Here is the mother of you.”

Now, Protestants allege Mary had sons, besides Jesus. And John was young enough, he probably still had a mother. But this disciple is never called, “John.” We know that identification only by comparing the events he describes in the first person to other biblical accounts. He is identified, “the disciple that Jesus loved.”

Did Jesus not love the other disciples? Of course he did. But John the Evangelist is inviting the reader to apply all of the commands given by Jesus to all those whom Jesus loves and who love Jesus.


34 posted on 11/06/2015 12:47:06 PM PST by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]

To: ealgeone

Well, you know, there is this thing of early papas traditions. Eve is called the mother of the living, because it was through her that began the ‘seed’ line to Christ. Mary fulfilled the prophecy in bearing the ‘flesh’ child. But hey again man’s traditions make the Words of God null and void.... And it sure does appear that only the return of Christ will set the truth straight.... I cannot find any place wherein Mary has a role in that return to perform a harvest.

Hebrews 2:14, does not mention Mary as part of the plan.


257 posted on 11/09/2015 1:14:05 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]

To: ealgeone

No where. Worship of Mary is wrong! Christ made it simple. ONLY through HIM do you see the Father. Period. End of statement. Worshiping Mary gets to to hell and that is all. Mary cannot forgive sins. Mary cannot get you to heaven. I don’t give a tinkers what anyone says. If you believe she can, well you will join all the others in the Lake of Fire of unbelievers. Only through Jesus Christ. Not through Mary, the pope, some priest or bishop. ONLY, ONLY through Jesus Christ shall you enter HIS heaven. Sorry to bust the bubble. But, if they had read the Bible instead of listening to a pope, you’d know all this.


450 posted on 11/11/2015 11:17:50 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Read 1 Corinthians 15: verses 1-4. This is the Gospel of Grace, the ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson