Posted on 11/02/2015 6:56:55 AM PST by Salvation
I have blogged before on Purgatory. Here is a link to one of those blogs: Purgatory â Biblical and Reasonable. I have also written more extensively on its biblical roots here: PDF Document on Purgatory.
On this Feast of All Souls, I want to reflect on Purgatory as the necessary result of a promise. Many people think of Purgatory primarily in terms of punishment, but it is also important to consider it in terms of promise, purity, and perfection. Some of our deceased brethren are having the promises made to them perfected in Purgatory. In the month of November we are especially committed to praying for them and we know by faith that our prayers are of benefit to them.
What is the promise that points to Purgatory? Simply stated, Jesus made the promise in Matthew 5:48: You, therefore, must be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect. In this promise is an astonishing declaration of our dignity. We are to share in the very nature and perfection of God. This is our dignity: we are called to reflect and possess the very glory and perfection of God.
St. Catherine of Siena was gifted by the Lord to see a heavenly soul in the state of grace. Her account of it is related in her Dialogue, and is summarized in the Sunday School Teacherâs Explanation of the Baltimore Catechism:
The Soul in the State of Graceâ Catherine of Siena was permitted by God to see the beauty of a soul in the state of grace. It was so beautiful that she could not look on it; the brightness of that soul dazzled her. Blessed Raymond, her confessor, asked her to describe to him, as far as she was able, the beauty of the soul she had seen. St. Catherine thought of the sweet light of that morning, and of the beautiful colors of the rainbow, but that soul was far more beautiful. She remembered the dazzling beams of the noonday sun, but the light which beamed from that soul was far brighter. She thought of the pure whiteness of the lily and of the fresh snow, but that is only an earthly whiteness. The soul she had seen was bright with the whiteness of Heaven, such as there is not to be found on earth. â My father,â she answered. âI cannot find anything in this world that can give you the smallest idea of what I have seen. Oh, if you could but see the beauty of a soul in the state of grace, you would sacrifice your life a thousand times for its salvation. I asked the angel who was with me what had made that soul so beautiful, and he answered me, âIt is the image and likeness of God in that soul, and the Divine Grace which made it so beautiful.â [1].
Yes, this is our dignity and final destiny if we are faithful to God.
So, I ask you, âAre you there yet?â God has made you a promise. But what if that promise has not yet been fulfilled and you were to die today, without the divine perfection you have been promised having been completed? I can only speak for myself and say that if I were to die today, though I am not aware of any mortal sin, I also know that I am not perfect. I am not even close to being humanly perfect, let alone having the perfection of our heavenly Father!
But Jesus made me a promise: You must be perfect as the heavenly Father is perfect. And the last time I checked, Jesus is a promise keeper! St. Paul says, May God who has begun a good work in you bring it to completion (Phil 1:6). Hence, if I were to die today, Jesus would need to complete a work that He has begun in me. By Godâs grace, I have come a mighty long way. But I also have a long way to go. God is very holy and His perfection is beyond imagining.
Yes, there are many things in us that need purging: sin, attachment to sin, clinging to worldly things, and those rough edges to our personality. Likewise most of us carry with us hurts, regrets, sorrows, and disappointments. We cannot take any of this with us to Heaven. If we did, it wouldnât be Heaven. So the Lord, who is faithful to His promise, will purge all of this from us. The Book of Revelation speaks of Jesus ministering to the dead in that he will wipe every tear from their eyes (Rev 21:4). 1 Corinthians 3:13-15 speaks of us as passing through fire in order that our works be tested so that what is good may be purified and what is worldly may be burned away. And Job said, But he knows the way that I take; and when he has tested me, I will come forth as pure gold (Job 23:10).
Purgatory has to beâgold, pure gold; refined, perfect, pure gold. Purgatory has to be, if Godâs promises are to hold.
Catholic theology has always taken seriously Godâs promise that we would actually be perfect as the Father is perfect. The righteousness is Jesusâ righteousness, but it actually transforms us and changes us completely in the way that St. Catherine describes. It is a real righteousness, not merely imputed, not merely declared of us by inference. It is not an alien justice, but a personal justice by the grace of God.
Esse quam videri – Purgatory makes sense because the perfection promised to us is real: esse quam videri (to be rather than to seem). We must actually be purged of the last vestiges of imperfection, worldliness, sin, and sorrow. Having been made perfect by the grace of God, we are able to enter Heaven, of which Scripture says, Nothing impure will ever enter it (Rev 21:27). And again, you have approached Mount Zion and the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and countless angels in festal gathering, and the assembly of the firstborn enrolled in heaven, and God the judge of all, and the souls of the just made perfect (Heb 12:22-23).
How could it be anything less? Indeed, the souls of the just made perfect. How could it be anything less if Jesus died to accomplish it for us? Purgatory makes sense based on Jesusâ promise and on the power of His blood to accomplish complete and total perfection for us. This is our dignity; this is our destiny. Purgatory is about promises, not mere punishment. Thereâs an old Gospel hymn that I referenced in yesterdayâs blog for the Feast of All Saints that says, âO Lord Iâm running, trying to make a hundred. Ninety-nine and a half wonât do!â
Thatâs right, ninety-nine and a half wonât do. Nothing less than a hundred is possible because we have Jesusâ promise and the wonderful working power of the precious Blood of the Lamb. For most, if not all of us, Purgatory has to be.
You're speaking from man's wisdom, not God's...Those scriptures referred to speak nothing of a trial of a person...The scripture clearly speaks of a trial of a person's works...
It is not a trial of sins...There is no condemnation...It is a trial of rewards...
Kinda like a typical workplace award ceremony...You may be called to go up and receive a promotion, a bonus or honorable mention due to your performance, your attitude or something similar...Others who were not as exemplary as you will perhaps not get a reward...
During the course of your employment you may have designed and built projects that failed...Or unintentionally crashed a machine...
When the recommendation is submitted to the higher ups for review, the crashed machine and failed projects are expunged from the report...They are looking for the positives...Had those less than positives been on the report, you may not have gotten the award(s)...
You were saved as yet by the paper shredder...
And yes, things do happen that way...And that is what this judgment is all about...
Well said. The apostle Paul listed his good deeds according to the Law as rubbish or dung in Philippians 3:8:
"Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,"
Since there is no mention it means it was adopted by the NT church? In Mark 5:38-41 Christ dismissed the professional mourners.
Some Catholics say purgatory is in Abraham's Bosom down there in hell...Others say this:
So where's that purgatory at??? Is it with the dead body in the ground??? Where's the soul reside during that purgatory???
Nope...The first building is physical...It was created by God and it houses the Holy Spirit...
Paul's foundation is spiritual...There's not really any cement there...We don't really build that building with diamonds and rubies...In fact, there are no diamonds and rubies nor hay in that building...
Yikes! Have not seen flagellation like that since Ashura 2009 in Iraq!
You picked a pretty poor proof text for your purgatory...Judas there was praying for some dead folks whom God killed for refusing to repent from mortal sins who happened to be in hell...
Catholic doctrine says you can't pray dead people out of hell...Judas had good intentions but he was dead wrong...Just as wrong as the Catholic religion for trying to use that as a proof text of purgatory...
The clear implication is that some sins can be forgiven after death.
You have to really reach to come up with that conclusion...
The verse is not speaking of one man alive in one age and dead in another...That doesn't even make sense...
The verse is speaking of two men, or a million men in two different ages...The church age vs. the Tribulation for example...The rule applies to (live) people in this age and it also applies to the (live) people in the next age...
“It is not a trial of sins...There is no condemnation...It is a trial of rewards... YES! And the poor poster cannot see that this review/judgment seat happens ... wait for it ... IN HEAVEN! It is not the person being reviewed, tried, it is the works, whether done as walking in the spirit or in the flesh. The religion of catholiciism is all about walking in the flesh, working to be worthy ... a Heavenly review of born from above individuals does not cmpute for the catholic mind.
That says it all...
Nice analogy.
....”Like theyâd rather do that themselves than accept the offer of the free gift of eternal life”.....
Because of Purgatory in their belief system there’s no incentive to seek, understand or know the assurance of their salvation....so once again Catholicism prevents them from ‘knowing’ what the Lord would have them know and accept.
Catholicism often gives the impression of “steps” one must make to attain salvation....which then nullifies the Gospel Message of Salvation “given” fully and completely thru by and of Jesus Christ alone.
The Lord wants us to “Know” the Riches and Glory of Himself....as is written....
.....”To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.”....Col. 1:7.....and further.....”if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness”....Romans 8:10....Therefore....”We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure...Heb.6:19
Some people just don't get that once you are born again/born from above, you are a new creature in Christ, the old is gone, the new is come, that the believer has been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of the Son God loves, the record of debt that stood against us having been canceled, his sins have been forgiven and separated from us as far as the east is from the west, and we are SEALED by the Holy Spirit who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we come into possession of it.
You become one of God's children. He gave those who believe on Jesus the RIGHT to that.
It's not on again off again salvation.
The only thing sin does is disrupt the lines of communication, it doesn't sever the relationship each and every time.
A married couple isn't divorced and remarried every time they have a disagreement and make up.
A child is not disowned by their parents every time they disobey, needing to be adopted back into the family every time after they show the *proper* amount of remorse through works done to convince the parent to forgive them.
Honestly, if earthly parents treated us the way Catholics claim God treat us, we'd consider them awful parents.
God identifies as a Father for a reason.
It’s really pathetic the lengths Catholicism can lead people to act like in their effort to think they can become worthy to receive God’s mercy.
So they’ve been wrong a long time.
Big deal.
They’re keeping pretty good company, as lots of people have been wrong about stuff for a long time.
I have always said, if this is true, just drown me in the baptistry.
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You obviously did not grow up in an Irish Catholic family:)
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Samuel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Job, Elijah, Methuselah, Enoch, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul, Timothy, were made righteous, the EXACT same way you and I are.
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We are doing wonderfully, but it is always hot here, 365 days a year, it is hot. Oh well. We are surviving.
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