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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.

You picked a pretty poor proof text for your purgatory...Judas there was praying for some dead folks whom God killed for refusing to repent from mortal sins who happened to be in hell...

Catholic doctrine says you can't pray dead people out of hell...Judas had good intentions but he was dead wrong...Just as wrong as the Catholic religion for trying to use that as a proof text of purgatory...

368 posted on 11/06/2015 4:49:05 PM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Iscool
Judas there was praying for some dead folks whom God killed for refusing to repent from mortal sins who happened to be in hell...

The common Catholic interpretation is that this was a superstitious practice, a venial sin, rather than the worship of a god, a mortal sin. It seems that it would have to be since Judas' practice of praying for the dead is commended:

"In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the dead to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin" (2 Macc. 12:43...45)
Catholic doctrine says you can't pray dead people out of hell...

That's correct. The Church teaches that Purgatory is a state of purification prior to entry into heaven.

387 posted on 11/07/2015 5:23:35 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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