[af_vet_1981]

I can also confirm my point had nothing to do with lying. As I said, in my mind this seems more to be a genuine but unfounded paranoia.

I accept your explanation. You may not have known that ealgeone, a frequent contributor to what you call paranoia, and I call an antiCatholic alliance, has recently taken the habit of calling me Clintonian or Clinton (but had not yet used Hillary IIRC), as a synonym for lying. Is he part of your use of we ?

[ealgeone]

Well, now there you go again.