“Done Roman” and Coming Home to the Catholic Church

Aletelia ^ | October 26, 2015 | FR DWIGHT LONGENECKER

[af_vet_1981]

Exhibit B: WVKayaker (who apparently thinks I, and other Catholics, are vampires. Is he part of your use of we ?

SR why bother with someone who has no indication of even reading, much less reveals an understanding of what you write. AFV may be the last person to deny blind obedience to his error-filled religion.

Of course, I know you are not writing for that poster's benefit, but are making loud the Gospel of Christ, which brings men (and women) to the foot of the cross!

To many Roman Catholics, the Word of God is more like garlic to a vampire! Yet, it reveals utter sinfulness and need for the indwelling of His Holy Spirit.

chutzpa

1. unmitigated effrontery or impudence; gall.
2. audacity; nerve.

If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die?

Merchant of Venice
Act 3, Scene 1,
William Shalespeare

[af_vet_1981]

I can also confirm my point had nothing to do with lying. As I said, in my mind this seems more to be a genuine but unfounded paranoia.

I accept your explanation. You may not have known that ealgeone, a frequent contributor to what you call paranoia, and I call an antiCatholic alliance, has recently taken the habit of calling me Clintonian or Clinton (but had not yet used Hillary IIRC), as a synonym for lying. Is he part of your use of we ?

[af_vet_1981]

It is our love of the Gospel that stirs up our defense of it.

Catholics can write the same sentence in all truth and sincerity. It is our love of the Gospel that stirs up our defense of it.

[WVKayaker]

Exhibit B: WVKayaker (who apparently thinks I, and other Catholics, are vampires. Is he part of your use of we ?

Thank you for proving my point. I never said what you stated. At least you included a complete quote of my text, but you failed once again to READ it. You latched onto one word and made the spurious claim that I said something that I clearly DID NOT SAY! A simile is all I used. It followed a post from a Roman Catholic cultist that intimated that I was a vampire.

It is one thing to make a statement. It is another to tell a lie. I will leave it to the readers to determine the veracity of our posts...

Yes, you do seem Clintonian! They excel in slicing, dicing, and lying!...

Is ... is!!!

[Springfield Reformer]

AF, what you and WVK say between each other is between the two of you. I do not intend to be drawn into highly personal “us versus them” tangles, on several grounds:

1. As a matter of Christian principle, I oppose division among brethren, especially in the family of Christ. When a person uses a vivid analogy like that, the charitable thing to do is to look at the central meaning and understand what is being said, not to assume the worst.

2. I believe these complicated “us versus them” tangles are so inherently personal they violate forum rules, even when that is not the intent. To me it represents a degenerative stage of a conversation, where the large ideas are lost in the scuffle to attack and defend the individual participants. It throws reason to the wind, and fosters foment rather than peace. I believe the forum rule that prohibits going personal is an excellent bit of guidance and I intend to follow it to the letter.

3. Tactically, this is like the moderators at the CNBC GOP debate trying to set each of the candidates against each other. It is a divide and conquer strategy, and no one with any sense will get caught up in it.

4. It serves no purpose in any effort to compare and contrast Roman versus evangelical claims of unity. Catholics have a semblance of formal unity. Evangelicals have substantive unity. But neither all Catholics nor all evangelicals are cookie cutter people. A person may well be my brother and do and say things differently than I would, and visa versa. That is not a valid critique of our unity. It’s just people being real. If you have an issue with someone’s analogies, take that up with them. Leave me out of it.

5. Back to unity for a moment. I just came from the Lord’s Supper this morning. There is no symbol more profound of our unity in Christ that our remembrance together of what He has done for us. Christ died for every one of His beloved children. How can I come from such a blessed moment of treasuring my unity with my brothers and sisters in Christ, only to come back here and submit to an interrogation that, to me, looks like an attempt to divide us? We are going to have our differences, but yes, in Christ, it is “we” for us. May God heal our infirmities.

Peace,

SR

[ealgeone]

Well, now there you go again.

[af_vet_1981]

Exhibit C: the hatred of the Catholic faith is the glue of the antiCatholic alliance.

Thank you for proving my point. I never said what you stated. At least you included a complete quote of my text, but you failed once again to READ it. You latched onto one word and made the spurious claim that I said something that I clearly DID NOT SAY! A simile is all I used. It followed a post from a Roman Catholic cultist that intimated that I was a vampire.

It is one thing to make a statement. It is another to tell a lie. I will leave it to the readers to determine the veracity of our posts...

Yes, you do seem Clintonian! They excel in slicing, dicing, and lying!...

Is ... is!!!

[WVKayaker]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!

Exhibit D- Hater=critic!

Mark 7: 6 He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

"These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.'
8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions."

Exodus 20: 4 "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."

[af_vet_1981]

In other words, and much more succinctly in one sentence, there is an antiCatholic alliance.

[af_vet_1981]

A simile is all I used. It followed a post from a Roman Catholic cultist that intimated that I was a vampire.

Patently false; your post was in response to post 91 which is not in any way as you claimed. Anyone can follow the chain to see you brought the vampire reference into the conversation uninvited. Perhaps you are Pentecostal and you became confused in the give and take of the comments. Was that the cause ?

[WVKayaker]

"To many Roman Catholics, the Word of God is more like garlic to a vampire!" wvk post #99

Exhibit B: WVKayaker (who apparently thinks I, and other Catholics, are vampires. - AFV still confused?

Anyone can follow the chain to see you brought the vampire reference into the conversation uninvited. Perhaps you are Pentecostal and you became confused in the give and take of the comments. Was that the cause ? < -confused? AFV

The original post to me (making intimations that I was a vampire) was removed (not by my request!). But, anyone can clearly see that I did NOT call anybody a vampire. I used the analogy/simile comparing the distaste Roman Catholics have for obedience to the Word of God.

Got any other spinning to do? You're failing quite well already! Watch that your nose doesn't grow longer!

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13 Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

[Springfield Reformer]

No, there is a pro-Gospel alliance, which is quite different. You may think whatever you like. The reader is invited to make up their own mind.

Peace,

SR

[af_vet_1981]

The original post to me (making intimations that I was a vampire) was removed (not by my request!). But, anyone can clearly see that I did NOT call anybody a vampire. I used the analogy/simile comparing the distaste Roman Catholics have for obedience to the Word of God.

It had nothing to do with my posts. You apparently think I, and other Catholics, are vampires, otherwise what was the point of posting that polemic simile to me ?

Are you aware that antisemites have traditionally referred to Jews as vampires ? Is antiCatholicism the new antiSemitism ?

[af_vet_1981]

No, there is a pro-Gospel alliance, which is quite different. You may think whatever you like.

It is an alliance of hatred against the Catholic faith, and it is evident in very many posts, albeit not by all in the alliance.

[WVKayaker]

You apparently think I, and other Catholics, are vampires,...

"To many Roman Catholics, the Word of God is more like garlic to a vampire!" wvk post #99

Wow! Critical thinking seems to be another weak spot. Reading, thinking...and obedience to Scripture seem to be a common failing among too many of you and your brethren!

Your post is just another crock of warm ...!

Think about what you plan to say before you write it! And, try reading my post again and see where it says that Roman Catholics are vampires. I simply meant they avoid Scripture, like vampires do garlic. That is an analogy, not a claim about Roman Catholic cultists!

Sorry, you are not a winner. Try again soon!

Romans 7: ...14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

[af_vet_1981]

Wow! Critical thinking seems to be another weak spot. Reading, thinking...and obedience to Scripture seem to be a common failing among too many of you and your brethren!

Your post is just another crock of warm ...!

Does anyone in the pro-Gospel alliance apprehend the utter hypocrisy of the two aforementioned statements ?

But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

James, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses eight to twelve,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

[WVKayaker]

Sorry, you are still not a winner. Try again soon!