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I Look at My Students and See Our Future Ex-Catholics
Aletelia ^ | October 23, 2015 | MARY DETURRIS POUST

Posted on 10/23/2015 11:48:42 AM PDT by NYer

When it comes to teenagers, you expect a certain amount of eye rolling and apathy, but put those same kids in a faith formation class for an hour and fifteen minutes at the end of a long school day and right at the dinner hour and you’ll see a level of teenage disinterest that could make you wither on the spot. That’s what my husband and I faced when we stood before the 21 high school sophomores we teach at our upstate New York parish.

The scene was nothing new and nothing unexpected. We taught most of the same kids last year since they’re in a two-year program that will culminate in confirmation this spring. However, I’m willing to wager that their apathy isn’t necessarily related to a surge of teenage surliness but rather to a lack of foundational catechesis, and I say that while having taught many of these kids in fourth and fifth grade. I have used every trick in the book—from group activities to stump-the-teacher sessions to outright bribery through baked ziti and brownies—to get these kids to hear me when I talk about the Mass, about the Gospel, about our beautiful Catholic teachings and traditions. Yet every year, when they reluctantly return to class, I find I’m grateful if even half of them remember the Our Father.

When I look out at these kids—regardless of age, regardless of whether they’ve gone to Catholic or public elementary school—I assume I am seeing 75 percent as future ex-Catholics.

The blame falls squarely in the lap of the Church, which has, for decades, let the parents of these children go spiritually hungry, through misguided catechesis in their youth and preaching that failed to challenge and engage them as adults. As Pope Francis told priests at ordination this year: “May your homilies not be boring; may your homilies touch the heart of the people because they come from your heart …”

Some might say that even with unchallenging preaching the Holy Eucharist should be enough to draw people in, but how can that be if people have no grasp of the power and wonder of the Sacrament because no one has taught them—not in a classroom and not from the pulpit?

People are hungry, yes, but before they can run to Jesus in the Eucharist, they must walk into a parish on any given Sunday and hear the words that feed their flagging spirits and find fellowship that reminds them they are not alone. As a speaker and retreat leader I can tell you, from both personal experience and from encounters with other Catholics around the country that neither of those things exist in abundance in US parishes. Some communities are getting it right, but these lucky few are the sad exceptions, not the happy norm.

And so people go elsewhere. Perhaps to the nondenominational church up the street where the preaching is riveting and relevant and the community is fully engaged and made up predominantly of former Catholics. They don’t have Eucharist, but people are feeling fed, and returning, week after week. When you sit in Mass this Sunday, try to experience it as a newcomer, and ask yourself: If this was your first and only experience of Catholicism, would you ever return?

Back when I wrote my Complete Idiot’s Guide to the Catholic Catechism, I heard the same refrain time and again from adult Catholics disconnected from the faith: “Why didn’t I learn any of this when I was growing up?” Many of them were raised, as I was, in what I call the “Era of the Collage,” with lots of cutting and pasting of happy Jesus, but little basic information about the things that sustain you for a lifetime, the beauty of a living, breathing faith. I credit my mother with bridging the wide chasm that grew between my official religious education and my actual faith, and that’s why I know we first and foremost need our families to turn our Church around.

Catechesis must begin by drawing families in, by making them feel welcome, by giving them something more than registration deadlines and weekly envelopes. Only when they feel as though they belong in this Church—to this Church—will they be open to retracing the spiritual steps of their childhood and embracing the path of faith as an adult. When they do that, they will bring their children with them, and faith formation will no longer be seen as a ticket that must be stamped in order to receive a sacrament and then “graduate” from religion, but rather as a first step on a lifelong journey.

Of course teens will be teens, and they will still roll their eyes and answer questions with stony silence, but beneath that will be a foundation of real faith, and the powerful, life-giving knowledge that they are loved beyond measure by a God who created them, and saved them, and waits for them.

I believe the kids sitting in our class acting like they couldn’t care less about religion desperately want and need a God like that, as do their parents. Unless we find a way to make God real and relevant to their lives, he will always remain an abstract idea to be sat through, rather than engaged, which is a loss not just for them but for all of us.

 


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To: ealgeone

So you have no historical proof, which you previously claimed you had. Seriously read some history, real history, not the foxes book of lies that non-Catholics seem to love. You claim and advanced degree, prove it show some actual real scholarship.


81 posted on 10/25/2015 10:26:55 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga

Are you saying the Word of God is not historically true??


82 posted on 10/25/2015 10:40:05 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Are you saying the Word of God is not historically true??

The Bible is not a history book, thee is historical truth in there, but is not a history book by any measure.
Now can you show Historical proof of these "other Christian churches" using secular sources or not. You said you studied history, step up and prove it.

83 posted on 10/25/2015 11:02:29 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga

What is not historically correct in the Bible?


84 posted on 10/25/2015 11:08:12 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

The ball is in your court, Show secular proof of your claim or don’t bother posting back. I am not going to be diverted on a non-Catholic tangent.


85 posted on 10/25/2015 11:47:54 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
You value the secular word over God's Word.

Duly noted for future reference.

Have a good one.

86 posted on 10/25/2015 12:27:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
<>I>You value the secular word over God's Word.

Not what I said at all, but I have come to expect prots to twist the plain words of Catholics and Scripture.

87 posted on 10/25/2015 12:31:24 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
You said you wanted secular sources instead of the Bible. There is no other way to understand what you're saying. You won't accept the Biblical references already provided yet you will accept secular sources.

It's you playing the word games.

Sorry God's Word is not acceptable to you as being historically reliable and free of the bias of man.

88 posted on 10/25/2015 12:44:40 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

You are wrong.


89 posted on 10/25/2015 1:22:53 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga

Checkmate.


90 posted on 10/25/2015 1:57:13 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Not even close.


91 posted on 10/25/2015 3:34:25 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga

You don’t even realize it.


92 posted on 10/25/2015 3:46:01 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; verga

I hate you both.


93 posted on 10/25/2015 3:47:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Lazamataz; verga

Verga and I are big boys. This is how we play together on the playground. I think he knows I hold no ill will toward him.


94 posted on 10/25/2015 3:59:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: redgolum
I've been using a devotional reading, "My Utmost for His Highest," which has given me greater understanding of the scriptures and challenged me to deepen my faith. There is an online listing of the book's daily readings but the book, by Oswald Chambers, is available at Amazon and other online book stores. Another good supplement has been "The Release of the Spirit" by Watchman Nee. Both books have helped me commit time to daily Bible readings and prayer, and helped me bring my life in line with Christ's teachings. I highly recommend these books to you all.
95 posted on 10/25/2015 4:01:13 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: cumbo78
Vatican II ruined Catholicism. It took the mystery, the sanctity, the solemnity, and the uniqueness, out of the Mass and tried to make it just like any other social event.

Great triumph by Satan and many here are (both younger and older) can't see it. It was predicted by Mary at Fatima "In 1960 it will become clearer". The true Third Secret has to do, in part, with this vile corruption of the Church.

There are alternatives:

The Society of St. Pius X welcomes to its seminaries this academic year over 50 candidates for the priesthood

96 posted on 10/25/2015 4:21:22 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ealgeone; verga

Did I say anything about how you argue, when I told you I hated you both?


97 posted on 10/25/2015 4:23:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: steve86
There are alternatives:

You could just declare as a Protestant, but I would counsel against it.

In 1989, Archbishop Lefebvre, now fearing that he would die and leave no one to ordain priests for the SSPX, sought an agreement with the Holy See for the lawful continuation of the Society. After reaching an agreement with Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, acting for Pope St. John Paul II, Archbishop Lefebvre broke the agreement and, in an act which was ipso facto schismatic, ordained 4 bishops without a papal mandate. This action incurred an automatic excommunication under canon 1387, confirmed a few days later by Decree of the Holy See. Twenty years later (January 2009), as part of another effort at reconciliation on the part of Rome, Pope Benedict XVI lifted these excommunications. Despite this, to date reconciliation has not been achieved.

Therefore, until the status of the SSPX is regularized by the Holy See, the bishops and priests of the Society remain suspended from the exercise of Holy Orders. Their celebration of the sacraments are valid but illicit, except for those sacraments requiring jurisdiction (Penance, Marriage), which are both invalid and illicit. This means that sacramental absolution by a Society priest is invalid for lack of jurisdiction, a requirement in all circumstances but the danger of death (canon 976). Similarly, lacking jurisdiction, marriages witnessed by SSPX clergy would also be invalid, for defect of the "Catholic form", which requires witnessing by one's bishop or proper pastor or a dispensations for other circumstances (canon 1108).

For both Penance and Matrimony, while it is theoretically possible that a particular absolution or marriage might be valid due to "common error," in which the penitent or couple are ignorant of the priest's lack of jurisdiction (which the Church then supplies by law, canon 144), given the notoriety of the canonical status of the SSPX it seems highly implausible in fact that such cases exist, since willful ignorance provides no such excuse.

98 posted on 10/25/2015 5:12:23 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Night Hides Not

I have used every trick in the book—from group activities to stump-the-teacher sessions to outright bribery through baked ziti and brownies—to get these kids to hear me when I talk about the Mass, about the Gospel, about our beautiful Catholic teachings and traditions. Yet every year, when they reluctantly return to class, I find I’m grateful if even half of them remember the Our Father.


For the record before I begin. I think about as many RC will get to heaven as protestant - not very many. There is a remnant in both camps I think but may be proven wrong.

The above caught my attention. It could have been written from a protestant position also.

1) Note the emphasis on technique. Everyone one is taught techniques, educators are taught how to teach but know nothing of their subject. Politicians as don’t know the constitution. Priests and pastors don’t know God. No techniques or method will lead anyone to God, Any one disagree?

2) I’m sorry but

“hear me when I talk about the Mass, about the Gospel, about our beautiful Catholic teachings and traditions.”

is not all meat and potatoes, junk food is mixed in with the good stuff. Protestants do their own version of it.

Adding yeast to make it more palatable is not the answer. Would seem God would like to feed us hardtack (anyone remember unleavened bread in the Bible?). When you are hungry you will eat it..............

3) You can’t give what you don’t have. There are too many people in the visible church that don’t know God. Always been that way and will be until............. Any arguments?


99 posted on 10/25/2015 5:29:46 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: steve86; Salvation

Has this “third secret” been revealed?


100 posted on 10/25/2015 5:56:34 PM PDT by ealgeone
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