Posted on 10/20/2015 12:34:51 AM PDT by OrthodoxIndianCatholic
“Yes; and with facts.”
Here are the facts:
1) You apparently wanted to make hay out of the fact that there is a “NEW” (1997) edition of the CCC - and did so while posting verses from the “NEW” International Version of the Bible and you apparently didn’t see the obvious problem with that.
2) You apparently didn’t know that there are no major differences in the text between 1st and 2nd editions of the CCC. All textual edits boil down to a handful of pages and didn’t change a single doctrine in the least.
3) You apparently were completely unaware that the 2nd edition was published with a huge series of citation indices and a glossary and that those pages accounted for just about every single page of added text to the CCC as a whole. The textual edits to the main text were so minor that none of them singly or even in aggregate added any pages to the text except perhaps - and I really mean PERHAPS - lengthening the CCC by one or two pages overall.
So, you were wrong, on everything. Those are the facts.
“And you Catholics are waiting for NEW revelations from Mary.”
I’ve yet to meet any Catholic who is. Remember, public revelation ended with St. John’s death: CCC 66.
“Am I wrong HERE too?”
Yes - if you interpret the statement incorrectly as you do so many things. If you interpret it correctly, then no. Which will you choose? The safe bet is that you will choose to interpret it incorrectly.
“Dig me up and cut off my pointing, accusing fingers.”
Since it is guaranteed that someone will look hypocritical when he attacks Catholics for having a NEW edition of the catechism while posting verses from a NEW edition of the Bible, I think simply reposting those statements is more effective. If you’re buried, your own words dug the hole.
Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
~Abraham Joshua Heschel
Arrogant condescension removes the possibility for either means to be admired.
I must commend you on the recent additions to your desktop file of cartoons and comic strips! Good work, old cow!
Did you know that many Catholic believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus, but have no faith in the creation nor most of the Old Testament stories.
David, "a man after God's own heart" (Acts 13:22),was a wretched sinner. Job was a devout and Godly man, but God allowed Satan to bring Job to sit in front of abusive friends, covered with sack cloth, and ashes.
Shadrach, Meshack, and Abednigo danced in a fire and Abraham almost killed his son. Such are just fairy tales, but to so many Roman Catholics, they would rather believe myths of apparitions and alleged miracles. They pray to some goddess, and bow down to plastic idols.
But, it is almost Christmas, so Santa will take another sleigh ride, and hopefully, there are still plenty of fireplaces for him to drop into! Of course, many will go to church to partake of bread and wine, and think their salvation if found within!
Matthew 15: 3 Jesus replied, And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, Honor your father and mother and Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is devoted to God, 6 they are not to honor their father or mother with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8 These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.
10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, Listen and understand.
11 What goes into someones mouth does not defile them, but what
comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.
12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?
13 He replied, Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.
15 Peter said, Explain the parable to us.
16 Are you still so dull? Jesus asked them. 17 Dont you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a persons mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughtsmurder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.
Wow! You found a gif to perfectly illustrate Elsie’s comment! How do you guys come up with these things!?
And this is an illustration of what one believes does not always reflect reality.
Heres why: 1) when I asked the question the first time in post 76 you avoided it completely, 2) you apparently have no understanding of the books.
I believe I answered your questions in post #61.
I gave it to you Matt 13 sower of the seed parable. The seed sprouted, but didn’t continue in the faith thus surrendering their salvation.
But it’s still free will, our God doesn’t want robots. The Holy Spirit gives direction, but you must choose to follow that direction.
“He’s not looking for an excuse to axe them the minute they slip up.”
No one said that if you slip up you are axed! We all sin even in the faith, but we continue in the faith and belief and thus we are forgiven as far as the east is from the west.
But the seed is the word.
The word can’t continue in salvation.
The soil is the person.
Did Thomas lose his salvation?
What was Jesus reaction to both Peter and Thomas? Peter for denying Him and Thomas for doubting Him?
It’s not up to us to *keep* our salvation.
Read Galatians 3.
We are not saved by faith and kept by works. And the idea of giving up salvation is not found in Scripture.
So what do you do with all God’s promises about Him keeping us to the end and being sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption?
Ignore them?
“I just LOVE it when an FR Catholic is interested in ME!”
I just love it when an anti-Catholic on FR actually tells the truth or gets something right about the Catholic faith. Oh, wait, that never seems to happen.
Oh, a cartoon. Admitting defeat so early? Again?
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