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To: ealgeone; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
What is revealing and tragic is how much RCs look to one man, so that we have daily news dispatches on what such do and say, and there is great consternation and panic over what the present one says/does or may do.

Which is closer to cultism than the NT church. Peter's shared apostolic power, non-assertive street level leadership as one among the 11, as a primary elder in the church, and one of those who seemed to be pillars, and later general pastoral function notwithstanding, not a single letter to the churches reminds or commands them to submit to Peter or even regularly pray for him, nor is submission to him commended, despite the many issues, commendations and condemnations, problems and remedies

Which includes the Lord's critiques to the 7 representative church in Rv. 2,3, not even lack of submission to him being as part of the problem or submission being a solution.

The closest there is to such is that of Paul's voluntary presentation of his ministry to the apostles in Jerusalem (not Rome. Paul does not even include Peter among the 35 souls he mentions in Rm., 16). But in which Peter is named after James, and is the only apostle publicly rebuked after Pentecost, by the same man of God whose ministry he affirmed, along with James and John. (Gal.2) E

Nowhere did Peter refer to himself as the chief apostle or pope, or in a uniquely gifted head office, or call a ecumenical council (unlike Paul), nor is the church seen looking to him as its universal supreme infallible head. As the non-exalted leader among the 11, he was the first to use the keys of the kingdom (the gospel, by faith in which souls are placed into the kingdom of Christ: Col. 1:13) but it is James is the one who provides the Scripture-based conclusive judgment in Acts 15, confirmatory of what Peter briefly testified to and exhorted, and which Paul preached).

Moreover, Rome's claimed successors fail of both the qualifications and credentials of Biblical apostles. (Acts 1:21,22; 1Cor. 9:1; Gal. 1:11,12)

Finally, nowhere is any apostolic successor after Judas seen, which was (in order to maintain foundational number of apostles (cf. Rv. 21:14) and which was by the non-political Scriptural means of casting lots. (cf. Prov. 16:33)

Which is starkly contrary to the propaganda of the NT church looking to Peter as the first of a line of infallible heads reigning in Rome as their exalted supreme head, which even Cath scholarship provides testimony against.

70 posted on 10/19/2015 5:07:45 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

As always, well said.

Hoss


74 posted on 10/19/2015 6:00:01 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: daniel1212

Some FRoman Catholics think Protestants are their worst enemy.

Just look at this mess they are in.


76 posted on 10/19/2015 6:21:57 PM PDT by Gamecock (Preach the gospel daily, use words if necessary is like saying Feed the hungry use food if necessary)
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To: daniel1212

“Finally, nowhere is any apostolic successor after Judas seen, which was (in order to maintain foundational number of apostles (cf. Rv. 21:14) and which was by the non-political Scriptural means of casting lots. (cf. Prov. 16:33)”

Which is quite the contrast to selling church offices in the history of Catholicism.


95 posted on 10/20/2015 12:20:26 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: daniel1212
...Pew still calculates that six Catholics leave the church for every one person who chooses to join.
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/16/american-catholics-decline--flux-pope-francis-visit/72320496/

101 posted on 10/20/2015 5:52:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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