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To: ebb tide; metmom
Catholics don't worship Mary, they venerate Her.

Nope. Catholics worship Mary -- Catholics PRAY to her. Prayer is a form of worship that is to be to God alone. Can you show me anywhere in Scripture where Jesus taught the disciples to pray, "Our Mary.....", or, "Our Saint..."?

CCC 969 says she holds a "saving office" and acts as an "intercessor" -- which, according to the Scriptures that the RCC claims to have written, there is ONE intercessor between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

In order for Catholics to take advantage of her fantasy offices, how do Catholics "get the word through?" Veneration? Do Catholics "venerate" to God to be heard?

Many, many examples of PRAYERS to Mary. In fact, doesn't the rosary incorporate an appeal to Mary? Don't Catholics "pray the rosary"?

Seems like there's a whole lotta wrong packed into this whole Roman Catholic thing.

Hoss

19 posted on 10/11/2015 1:52:45 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: HossB86

there is ONE intercessor between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”

So, Hoss, if I ask others to pray for my sick relative, as I have seen many do on this very website, I am guilty of theological malfeasance...?


26 posted on 10/11/2015 6:19:54 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: HossB86
Prayer is a form of worship that is to be to God alone.

"Prayer" is merely "asking for something". In fact, in some languages, German for example, the words for "pray" and "ask" are the same.

I know of no Scripture verse that says a Christian can only ask for things from God. Do you know of one?

according to the Scriptures that the RCC claims to have written, there is ONE intercessor between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

Except that that's not what the Scripture says. Read it in the Greek. It says that there is "one (Gk heis, one, unique, primary; not monos, one and only one) Mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus". This is immediately AFTER -- read the context -- Paul commands intercessory prayer by his readers, through Christ the Mediator, and on behalf of the whole world.

If Christ is the only intercessor, that doesn't makes sense. Neither does it make sense for Paul to ask others to pray for him, which he does in several places. Neither does it makes sense for people in your church to ask for prayers, but I'll bet they do it anyway.

27 posted on 10/11/2015 6:20:10 PM PDT by Campion
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To: HossB86
Many, many examples of PRAYERS to Mary.

And mighty potent ones at that!!


 
 
 
Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

39 posted on 10/12/2015 1:35:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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