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Pope says Church can't be 'museum', must be open to change
Reuters ^ | October 5, 2015 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 10/05/2015 11:40:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Pope Francis told a Roman Catholic meeting on family issues on Monday that the Church should not be a stuffy "museum of memories" but have the courage to change if that was what God wanted.

Francis urged bishops at the start of a three-week gathering, known as a synod, to humbly empty themselves of conventions and prejudices. They should not "point fingers at the others to judge them" or feel superior to those with different ideas.

In a passage that appeared to be directed at unbending traditionalists, the pope said bishops should beware the "hardening of some hearts, which despite good intentions, keep people away from God".

Yet he also made a nod to conservatives, calling for courage that "does not let itself be intimidated by the seductions of the world" and passing fads....

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholicism; catholics; divorce; homosexualagenda; popefrancis; synod
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To: MichaelCorleone

Looks like infallible, not so much.


41 posted on 10/05/2015 12:16:17 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doesn’t the Catholic Church have some sort of impeachment process?


42 posted on 10/05/2015 12:26:11 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are all sinners, and so we need to get our own houses in order - each of us. If we do that, we will change the world.


43 posted on 10/05/2015 12:26:28 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This fellow likes to throw mush on the wall that can be interpreted ten ways from Sunday. His 'progressive' (read that 'atheist') fan-club, will read this that the 'Church' needs to adopt the ways of the 'Church of What is Happening Now', and become Social Clubs. Others will scratch their heads and give him the benefit of the doubt regarding some shoddy translations and give weight to his comments "...calling for courage that "does not let itself be intimidated by the seductions of the world" and passing fads..."

Francis is intentionally obtuse.

44 posted on 10/05/2015 12:27:48 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wonder what he wants to change??


45 posted on 10/05/2015 12:41:59 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

If that happened we wouldn’t have to be in politics!


46 posted on 10/05/2015 12:42:48 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: All

Just pay attention to what he (Francis) says (the portion in quotes). It’s not that hard.

Or not, if you wish to believe something differently.

Everyone (on FR) should note though that Reuters yet again has inserted their own editorializing and agenda into this “article”.

I can remember when everyone here knew that about Reuters. And could also spot it with ease.

Whatever though. If it helps you sleep better at night to believe (with Reuters’ “help”) he’s...whatever you want to believe he’s doing...ok!

Good luck with that.


47 posted on 10/05/2015 12:45:40 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Did God change His mind?”

If He did, He sure has a lot of apologizing to do to the former inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah.


48 posted on 10/05/2015 12:52:47 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Change is the gospel, as written. It is God, the unchanging Rock of our Salvation. Changing people lives with the Good News!
Fundamental Christian beliefs do not change or we are condemned to hell.


49 posted on 10/05/2015 1:11:11 PM PDT by vpintheak (A Free Man!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

When I converted to Catholicism, the teacher of the RCIA class was a wise, wonderful old priest who said, “The church is not a museum for saints. It is a hospital for sinners.”
I think this is what Francis is trying to express, and of course the lefty media want to blur the distinction between sin and sinner.

He is not saying sin is no longer sinful. He has stated —repeatedly—that the church’s position on homosexuality has not and will not change.
Likewise the church’s position on mercy and forgiveness.
“Neither do I condemn you. Go, and sin no more.”
What he’s saying IS biblical, which is precisely why the media don’t understand it and insist on politicizing it.
He is inviting sinners to come into the church, lay their sins at the foot of the Cross, and be healed.


50 posted on 10/05/2015 1:15:37 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Man remaking its “God” in mans image never ends well
51 posted on 10/05/2015 1:16:51 PM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriots are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: circlecity

It’s not God’s role to change and adjust to our worldly culture....it’s our job to live up to God’s plan for us.


52 posted on 10/05/2015 1:19:57 PM PDT by tioga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In a passage that appeared to be directed at unbending traditionalists, the pope said bishops should beware the "hardening of some hearts, which despite good intentions, keep people away from God".

People stay away from God because they want to and not to excuse the bad behavior some perpetrate in the name of Christ, blaming it on them is also just an excuse.

53 posted on 10/05/2015 1:20:20 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A church is a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints. That being said, it is our goal to become saints...not remain sinners. We are to be changed, not our church.


54 posted on 10/05/2015 1:22:38 PM PDT by tioga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Faith hope and change.


55 posted on 10/05/2015 1:29:02 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To the Pope: ...and the horse you rode in on. Scumbag clown.


56 posted on 10/05/2015 1:31:26 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: Norm Lenhart

The art in the Vatican is the patrimony of Western civilization. It is not the Pope’s property. It was and is a gift to the Church for the purpose of glorifying God. It is ALREADY public property.

If it WERE sold, where would it go? Into someone private home? A museum?

And wherever it was, would you be squawking that it should be “sold” by the billionaire who bought it? Probably not, because what you really hate is the Catholic Church.


57 posted on 10/05/2015 1:33:14 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “synod” as such has been destroyed, by Bergoglio’s thugs. There will be much chatter, ending up with NO DOCUMENT.

Then Bergoglio’s thugs will fan out through the world, and Communion will be handed out like candy—as it ALREADY IS to abortionists.

The important thing is that CHANGE will take place, but without Bergoglio’s fingerprints on it.


58 posted on 10/05/2015 1:35:37 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: VanDeKoik

No. There is not a word in Canon Law about removing a Pope.

But St. Robert Bellarmine wrote about it. More people have been boning up on Bellarmine in the last two years than in the previous 300.


59 posted on 10/05/2015 1:38:32 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Not at all. I was raised RC. I still abide by the teachings of the RC.

What I refuse to do is sit here thinking that God prefers art museums in cellars of kingdoms while the PsuedoKing is out telling the world to give of themselves without giving anything but communism of himself.

The church is fine. The Bible is fine. The doctrine is fine The people running it into hell via gays, communism and powertripping on the world stage are the problem.

Now if after all this pope and his henchmen have done this year alone, you see no problem, then perhaps it’s you contributing to the problem.


60 posted on 10/05/2015 1:39:35 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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