Posted on 08/24/2015 6:08:28 PM PDT by marshmallow
The city approves an initiative to honour the Reformer that challenged the ‘capital of Catholicism’ five centuries ago. Politicians waited for the approbation of Vatican authorities.
Rome will have its own ‘Piazza Martin Lutero’ in the centre of the city. The Italian capital approved an initiative proposed by the Union of the Seventh Day Adventist Churches back in 2009. Vatican authorities have not opposed the project, evangelical sources said.
“Next September 16 at 17.00, will take place the naming of a square in Rome to the German reformer Martin Luther, close to the Colosseum”, Stefano Bogliolo, board member of the Italian Evangelical Alliance, told Evangelical Focus.
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This is what I mean (bold emphasis mine). When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verses thirty one to forty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
I have no idea if Josh Duggar has ever been born again,
Then I submit you should also have no idea if Luther has ever been born again either.
Neither does the Messiah. John 8:42-44
Nor His apostle John. 1 John 2:23
I am already aware you denied the Jewish people that Luther persecuted, and that perished in the Holocaust, are the brethren of the Messiah. It is theological antisemitism and incongruent with the Second Greatest Commandment. It is typical of Protestant replacement theology.
There’s no comparison between a reality television star and Martin Luther. I don’t know a thing about Duggar’s spiritual understanding and I have no evidence of a changed life. I believe Luther was born again because of his spiritual insight and willingness to die for the truth of the gospel. Natural men (lost men) cannot discern spiritual truths.
“The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.”
I believe the least of these are His followers, His sheep, all those in the universal body of believers, not Israel.
Just jump to the part where you tacitly admit your defeat by posting pictures. Save us all the usual time.
In other words, you still can’t make an argument. Go to a good university library. Go to BR 330 .E5 1955. Read those 50 or so volumes like I did. Then get back to me. While you’re at it. Read this book: Martin Luther: The Man and the Image, by Herbert David Rix. Rix’s book is one of the most fascinating biographies of Luther ever written.
As everyone who has read your schtick is aware that as a Catholic you have little regard for the plain words of scripture. Typical of Catholic theology, as is the amnesia that overcomes when the anti-semitic actions of the Catholic church in history or the present are discussed. No need to belabor those points with further examples, but I'm positive they will be forthcoming. This interpretation above must be part of that unknown hallowed tradition. God's Word on the subject is clear, to argue this point after being presented with the biblical view also makes you clear. John 8:42-44 1 John 2:23
It is always astonishing when a person accuses the Lord and His ethnic Jewish Apostle of anti-semitism. And claims the Lord doesn't understand the teaching He preached about the two great commandments. Is this more of Catholic teaching? Or are you out there on your own as a bad Catholic who makes up his own rules cafeteria-style? I thought Catholics wrote the Bible? No wonder you never read it. John 8:42-44; 1 John 2:23
It seems symmetric to me that one would blame Catholics while arguing for a scriptural basis for Protestant theological antisemitism. It is in the tradition of Luther. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord. Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
Leviticus, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verses one to two, and eighteen,
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty three, Protestant verses thirty six to forty,
First John, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses three to seven,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
Not to mention that Judgment Seat has not been initiated yet, so how can any dead person be at their final destination already?
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Try English. Whose arguing for a 'scriptural basis for Protestant theological antisemitism'? That's your construct. Argue the passages provided. Tell us all how Christ and John were mistaken, what did they 'really' mean? Read plain words.
While you're at it, how about an exposition of Catholic theology on the same subject? Not your version, the Vatican's, if they have one. What is the Catholic view of 'replacement theology'? Hmmmmmmmm? as a famous Catholic opined.
Please provide, or might that make you ineligible for Catholic caucus hmmmmmm? Serve up your 'Soup of the Day'.
That is precisely what Luther and his spiritual children do, to this day.
That is precisely what Luther and his spiritual children do, to this day.
Sure recognizing as fact what God has said is anti-semitism. Keep going Fonz, more sharks to jump. Really want to see that Catholic take. You do have it right? Should be easy to find. I already have it.
That is Luther's argument; he was just following orders.
Worse, unable to man up when called on it. Pathetic food at the af_vet cafeteria. Keep going however, hypocrisy is a strong attraction for theology, many converts to win to dipensationalist ant-semitic RC hypocritology. As the High Priest you can do it.
Following God's orders, that's a bad thing now? Catholic... LOL.
That shouldn’t sit well with the Jews considering Luther’s extreme bigotry towards them.
Do they have the same problem with Catholic or Vatican squares? Maybe some named for saintly Popes? A much more harsh and longer lasting 'extreme bigotry'.
To properly channel the spirit of Luther one needs more vulgarity when railing against the Catholics and the Jews.
I did not avoid it, I wasn’t online till five minutes ago. Arguing with faceless angry people on the internet is a hobby, not my life.
The statement “Least of the Least of the Messiah’s brethren” is something I honestly don’t understand. Does it mean the Jews that have rejected Christ are worse off? Well, yes they are. They reject the Messiah, and are in danger of hell (just as all who reject Him).
If the quote came from Luther (which remember, we Lutheran’s hold him in less respect than say the Catholics do St John Chrysantomen) in his book “On the Jews and Their Lies”, then he was probably off his nut.
I will ask you this again, since you are avoiding the question. What do you think of the sermon I posted? To often RCC Freepers will play fast and loose with Luther, yet ignore statements by Popes and Saints on the Jews. Luther did not happen in a vacuum.
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