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To: Elsie

There are several Old Testament persons who never died. Elisha was one, IIRC. Or was it Elijah? Moses, possibly.

Is Jesus dead? Is the man who heard Jesus say “This day you shall be with me in Paradise” dead? Was Jesus lying when he said that if we eat his body and drink his blood, he will raise us up to eternal life?


704 posted on 08/22/2015 11:55:21 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
There are several Old Testament persons who never died. ...

Therefore; Rome can make all the claims it wants about Mary because of this?

Wishful thinking in a court of law and reason.

708 posted on 08/23/2015 12:13:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Luther. In a red shirt...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir1a_3UBtg0


709 posted on 08/23/2015 12:15:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
It's only as strong as it's weakest link...




710 posted on 08/23/2015 1:10:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
There are several Old Testament persons who never died. Elisha was one, IIRC. Or was it Elijah? Moses, possibly.

Two is several?

And you don't even know!?!?

It was Enoch and Elijah.

Moses died and God buried him.

714 posted on 08/23/2015 5:10:17 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Was Jesus lying when he said that if we eat his body and drink his blood, he will raise us up to eternal life?

Was Jesus lying when He said this?

John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

Jesus never commanded anyone to break the Law. He was speaking about spiritual consuming.

716 posted on 08/23/2015 5:13:54 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Enoch and Elijah were taken up into heaven. Moses died and God buried him; yet he appeared with Elijah to witness the Messiah’s glory.
There were others (Lazarus, etc.) who died and were raised from the dead. There is no explanation if they were assumed into heaven.


722 posted on 08/23/2015 9:44:17 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

**Was Jesus lying when he said that if we eat his body and drink his blood, he will raise us up to eternal life?**

That is switching the subject a bit, but is one ‘mass’ enough for eternal life? If not, how many are needed? Some of the most dedicated ‘mass’ partakers, that I know personally, are totally dedicated democrats; liberals to the max.


724 posted on 08/23/2015 10:36:54 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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